Alec Baldwin to be charged with Involuntary Mansla... - Page 10

Tinkrbl44 · ‎08-23-2010

@Laura14 wrote:
@Linmo If he selected the armorer or had any say in her being on set, I withdraw my post. I don't think I have heard that said yet, but if true, I can see the charge.

The sad thing is that it will probably go to a negotiated plea deal with no jail time, possible probation, and a huge fine after all is said and done.

This is all for nothing except grandstanding for the prosecutors and a big money grab for the county.

@Laura14 @CANDLEQUEEN

Comments online this morning suggest they are charging Alec to coerce him into taking a plea deal. I doubt any prosecutor would want this to go to trial .

Tinkrbl44 · ‎08-23-2010

@Mj12 wrote:
He was supposed to be handed a gun with dummy rounds. He just took it and filmed the scene/shot the gun (yes he pulled the trigger). He should have checked it first to ensure that there were infact dummy rounds in there. He could have shaken the gun to tell. Just a million mistakes happened by several people, and that poor young woman is dead.

@Mj12

If you open the gun and see shells inside, can you tell if they are real bullets or dummy rounds? If so, what's the difference?

Mj12 · ‎03-09-2010

@Tinkrbl44 wrote:
@Mj12 wrote:
He was supposed to be handed a gun with dummy rounds. He just took it and filmed the scene/shot the gun (yes he pulled the trigger). He should have checked it first to ensure that there were infact dummy rounds in there. He could have shaken the gun to tell. Just a million mistakes happened by several people, and that poor young woman is dead.

@Mj12

If you open the gun and see shells inside, can you tell if they are real bullets or dummy rounds? If so, what's the difference?

@Tinkrbl44 IMO just quickly looking at the bottom of the rounds, hard to distinguish. He could have unloaded it all then individually shake each round to ensure they were dummy. Plus you can tell by looking at each round all around (not just the bottom).

lgfan · ‎10-19-2012

I agree with you Mj12. If he took a little extra time to make sure the gun was not loaded with real bullets this awful incident could have been avoided. It is better to be safe than sorry.

cody2 · ‎03-19-2010

So now all actors are expected to be gun and ammo experts? That is not in their contract. That is what the armorer is hired for. Real guns should have been banned off of movie sets long ago. I am sad for all of the victims of this tragedy.

Free2be · ‎03-10-2010

I hope fair-minded jurors will be seated. People on chat threads don't have all the information to try this case; he deserves a fair trial.

No doubt his deepest regret is that he trusted the armorer to do her job.

My personal guess is, since the charge is "involuntary" manslaughter, he'll probably be found guilty since he certainly had no intent.

I don't know if seeing him behind bars is what the victim's family wants but clearly many in the public domain want it. Odd, since he's not harmed them. Makes me understand the Salem Witch trials.

Stelladorable · ‎08-22-2019

@Free2be wrote:
I hope fair-minded jurors will be seated. People on chat threads don't have all the information to try this case; he deserves a fair trial.

No doubt his deepest regret is that he trusted the armorer to do her job.

My personal guess is, since the charge is "involuntary" manslaughter, he'll probably be found guilty since he certainly had no intent.

I don't know if seeing him behind bars is what the victim's family wants but clearly many in the public domain want it. Odd, since he's not harmed them. Makes me understand the Salem Witch trials.

And public hangings.

lgfan · ‎10-19-2012

He was not just an actor on the movie. He was also one of the producers. Yes, it was also his responsibility to know about guns. He cannot blame the armorer that he hired. Everyone is passing the buck. He, she, they are responsible for the incident except Alec Baldwin.

cody2 · ‎03-19-2010

@lgfan wrote:
He was not just an actor on the movie. He was also one of the producers. Yes, it was also his responsibility to know about guns. He cannot blame the armorer that he hired. Everyone is passing the buck. He, she, they are responsible for the incident except Alec Baldwin.

Hi @lgfan I don't know if you are responding to my opinion that I posted above. If so, I will try to clarify my thoughts. If it is proven that this armorer was not qualified for this job and it is proven that Baldwin was responsible for her hire...that is one thing. I don't know that that is the case yet. However most of the conversation about why he should be found guilty is the fact that he didn't inspect the gun, shouldn't have pointed the gun, should have unloaded the gun and inspected the ammo etc, etc.......And my opinion is simply that THAT is not and SHOULD not be proof of guilt. It is not his responsibility. In the end, it would have never happened if real guns had been banned after previous incidents on other movies regarding real guns used on set.

lgfan · ‎10-19-2012

Cody2 under any other circumstances I would have agreed with you but we are talking about a gun. When people are working with something that dangerous they cannot rely on others to check if everything is fine. Alec Baldwin was negligent. The charge is "involuntary" manslaughter. No one is saying that he did it intentionally.