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maybe once belichick and brady are gone from the team then they might get a bigger fan base outside of the new england area.

 

"gloaters gonna gloat?"

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a New Orleans lawyer has filed a lawsuit seeking to compel Commissioner Roger Goodell to invoke Rule 17 of the official rulebook and replay the balance of the NFC Championship game from the moment Rams defensive back Nickell Robey-Coleman wiped out, without consequence, Saints receiver Tommylee Lewis before a pass intended for Lewis arrived.

 

 

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/01/22/rams-saints-outcome-fuels-lawsuit-seeking-a-rule-17...

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Any of the four teams who played on Sunday are SuperBowl eligible, IMO. In other words, I can see any of those teams winning the Superbowl. I believe they're closely matched. 

 

I feel badly for friends who are Saints fans. Really like Drew Breeze. And of course, I'm a Chiefs' fan. I will say the word around town is Brady sought out the young Mahomes ater the game and they had a good conversation. Meant a lot to Patrick Mahomes. 

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Despite what people think, Brady has class.  Patrick Mahomes will be one of the greats if he doesn't get injured. Unbelievable performance for a 23 year old. Brady was paying his respects....because he respects him as a quarterback. 

 

Since you're a Chief's fan, @jeanlake.... I envy you. You have your glory years ahead of you as long as you can keep Mahomes healthy. Maybe he should look into the TB12 meathod. It's certainly kept Tom pliable for all these years. 

 

 

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@sunshine45 wrote:

maybe once belichick and brady are gone from the team then they might get a bigger fan base outside of the new england area.

 

"gloaters gonna gloat?"


not gloating at all.  Just defending Brady, Belichick and the Patriots from the haters out there. And why would a team have much of a base outside of its area anyway? 

 

The truth is....people hate winners who win as much as the Patriots do. I get it. I just think you should own your hate....... And realize that it has more to do with your team getting beaten so often. That's all. 

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@Emma Bunting wrote:

@sunshine45 wrote:

maybe once belichick and brady are gone from the team then they might get a bigger fan base outside of the new england area.

 

"gloaters gonna gloat?"


not gloating at all.  Just defending Brady, Belichick and the Patriots from the haters out there. And why would a team have much of a base outside of its area anyway? 

 

The truth is....people hate winners who win as much as the Patriots do. I get it. I just think you should own your hate....... And realize that it has more to do with your team getting beaten so often. That's all. 


 

@Emma Bunting

 

well then let me put it this way if you dont like the term "fan base." they will become more likeable outside of the new england area once those two are gone. my team is the ravens, but i do like and follow several other teams in particular. some of us have more than one team to enjoy.

 

i dont think the "haters" necessarily hate because they win. i think @gardenman gave some excellent examples of just why they are not well liked. there are definitely others that agree.

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meanwhile, on the streets of louisiana......

 

 

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Is anyone going to watch the Pro bowl? I am because I want to see Andrew Luck (substututing for Philip Rivers) , Nelson and Ebron. I also like watching the other players, they seem to having a good time. Besides, I need my football fix. 

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As a general rule in sports, casual fans are bandwagon jumpers. They'll start supporting whatever team is now winning. Have a winning team, you'll get tons of fans hoping aboard, buying your jerseys and claiming undying loyalty, until you lose, then they're on to the next team that's hot. You see that with pretty much any team that wins a lot in every sport.

 

You don't see that so much with the Patriots. They've been winning forever. You'd think they'd have a huge national fanbase like the Cowboys or Packers did in their heyday when they were the dominant teams in the NFL, but they don't. 

 

There's just too much shadiness with the Patriots for a lot of even casual fans to jump on their bandwagon. Brady and Belichick aren't especially lovable types. They're just a hard team for most of us to support. It's not so much because they win, but the rest of the stuff they do. God knows most winning teams get tons of people jumping aboard the bandwagon and claiming fandom, even with a prickly coach and QB, but the Patriots are just a hard team to support for most of us.

 

When you look at the teams and fanbases that feel they've been abused by the Patriots in some manner, going back to the snowplow game, the tuck rule, spygate, deflategate, and more, pretty much every fanbase in the NFL has some gripe against the Patriots that prevents most from hopping on the Patriots bandwagon. We don't hate the Patriots for being winners. We hate them for the way they win. We hate that they seem to be favored by the officials. (May or may not be true.) We hate that Brady tends to fling himself to the turf and beg for a flag with any contact. We hate that with pretty much any controversy it's the Patriots who are involved. It's not just a once or twice type of thing either, but year after year it happens.

 

I've already spoken why the Eagles' fans hate the Patriots. It's not because they beat us fair and square, we don't hate the Raiders who also beat us in a Super Bowl, it because the Patriots appear to have cheated to beat us. Fairness is something that fans like in teams and the Patriots just never seem to play fair. From having a snowplow operator clear the field for their kicker, being caught spying on opposing teams, altering footballs, intercepting radio communications, and more, are the reasons the Patriots aren't loved outside of New England. They win, but they don't win fair and fairness matters to a lot of fans.

 

And it's not just, "Hey, stuff happens to us, it's not our fault." The Patriots constantly look to break the rules. In 2015 they came up with their ineligible receiver rule gambit they used against Baltimore and Indy, alienating two more large fanbases. The reason everyone doesn't love the Patriots is that they just don't play fair. Sure, they win, but they win by cheating, or averting the rules. Most fanbases don't mind losing if the loss came fairly. Losses to the Patriots almost always have an asterisk attached and don't seem fair. That's why the Patriots have haters. It's not because they win, fans tend to gravitate towards winners. It's because they're shady (at best) when and how they win.

 

Show me another team in the league with as many controversial acts as the Patriots have had. You'll have to look long and hard to find any. That's why the Patriots aren't universally loved. Winning teams generally are loved. The Patriots are the exception to the rule. And they're not just picked on by the league. The Patriots constantly look to cheat or avert the rules. 

 

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