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[PARedbird]

@gardenman - just as I got in work yesterday and was reading on my phone, that's when I read Kellen was gone.  There has beeen talk about bringing back Frank Reich as he'd be one that would probably stay.  

Your thoughts on that?  

[gardenman]

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@PARedbird wrote:

@gardenman - just as I got in work yesterday and was reading on my phone, that's when I read Kellen was gone.  There has beeen talk about bringing back Frank Reich as he'd be one that would probably stay.  

Your thoughts on that?  

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Frank Reich, Doug Pederson, and lots of other names are floating around. Given this offensive roster, it's going to be hard to go too far wrong. Stoutland handles the run game design. Patullo handles the passing game design. The OC largely just puts the two parts together.

[teganslaw]

CBS Sports lists the Colts as "potential landing spot" for Aaron Rodgers. Colin Cowhard also connects Rodgers to the Colts, saying it would be a good fit. 

Rodgers would want to be the starter; I doubt that he would take a back seat to be a mentor to Richardson. I wouldn't count on them getting to the playoffs just by signing Rodgers. Anyway,  the Colts don't seem ready to break away from Richardson yet.

I wouldn't be too thrilled if this happened. The Colts signed other veterans, which didn't work out. I think Rodgers' best playing days are behind him. He is temperamental and doesn't seem to have a good locker room presence. 

[Spurt]

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@teganslaw wrote:

CBS Sports lists the Colts as "potential landing spot" for Aaron Rodgers. Colin Cowhard also connects Rodgers to the Colts, saying it would be a good fit. 

Rodgers would want to be the starter; I doubt that he would take a back seat to be a mentor to Richardson. I wouldn't count on them getting to the playoffs just by signing Rodgers. Anyway,  the Colts don't seem ready to break away from Richardson yet.

I wouldn't be too thrilled if this happened. The Colts signed other veterans, which didn't work out. I think Rodgers' best playing days are behind him. He is temperamental and doesn't seem to have a good locker room presence. 

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@teganslaw 

I agree I don't like the Rodgers/Colts scenario....  Teams have to kiss his rearend and bow to his every whim, yet he can't carry a team any more....He's in the same spot as Russell Wilson, although Rodgers may still be ahead in still having a bit more skills left.

[PARedbird]

Did anyone read what Dak Prescott now said about the Cowboys?  He congratulated the Eagles and then had the nerve to say that they've competed with the Eagles and beat them for the most part when they played them.  Then went on to say, he feels they are getting very close to winning the Super Bowl.

Delusional like Jerry Jones?  LOL 

[gardenman]

The last official team gathering for the Eagles is today as they clean out their lockers and have their final meetings with the staff. The Super Bowl parade takes place tomorrow, but that's optional for the players. I suspect most will attend.

One of the advantages of reaching the Super Bowl is that the knuckleheads on your team have six fewer unsupervised weeks where they can get into trouble. A drawback is they also get six fewer weeks for cleanup surgeries and the like to get healthy for next year. The OTAs and official stuff resumes in April and that'll be here before you know it.

Much of the Eagles' fanbase is already insisting we're doomed if we don't re-sign all of our free agents. Eh, not really. You'd like to re-sign a lot of them, but Howie has guys already in place to replace anyone lost and we still have free agency and draft to add more.

Mock drafts are growing by the day and many have the Eagles taking, or trading up to take a wide receiver. Eh, really? They have AJ Brown, Devonta Smith, and Jahan Dotson as a starting trio. We have the two kids in Ainias Smith and Johnny Wilson who should both be better next year. People seem disappointed that Dotson didn't do more in terms of stats, but he blocked when he was supposed to block and got open a lot, but never got the ball. You can't rack up catches if the ball doesn't come to you. I wouldn't put WR at a high level of need for the Eagles. Certainly not high enough to trade up to get a guy.

If the best player available at 32 happens to be a WR, then fine. I just don't see a need there. There's not a lot of need anywhere on the roster which is how you reach the Super Bowl. Another DE could be helpful. But Vic Fangio tends not to rotate guys as much so if you've got three or four good ones, you're pretty much set. Howie and the staff seem to feel that an offseason in the system will have Bryce Huff back to his former level so if true, that's a help. Linebacker depth could be improved. The DBs are pretty solid. Howie always likes to add an o-lineman or two.

The Eagles aren't a team with huge holes they need to fill. That makes shopping for new players a bit less stressful in the offseason. You can take the best of whatever's there. 

The Chiefs have far bigger issues. They've been drafting o-linemen and having them flop. Coaching? Bad evaluations? They need to fix that. Travis Kelce took quite a few plays off in the Super Bowl and became more of a spectator than a player even while on the field. He may be over it all by now and retiring. He won't be happy watching the film of that game and his actions. If you can't get up to play the Super Bowl it may be time to retire. He was sleepwalking through much of the game. An undisclosed injury hindering him or is he done?

Even with Mahomes at QB, the Chiefs could slide quite a bit going forward. They're going to need a very good offseason. The Chargers and Broncos are getting better and won't be pushovers much longer. The Bills, Bengals, and Ravens are all going to be working to get better. The Chiefs may not own the AFC much longer.

[Spurt]

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@PARedbird wrote:

Did anyone read what Dak Prescott now said about the Cowboys?  He congratulated the Eagles and then had the nerve to say that they've competed with the Eagles and beat them for the most part when they played them.  Then went on to say, he feels they are getting very close to winning the Super Bowl.

Delusional like Jerry Jones?  LOL 

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@PARedbird @gardenman 

Whats funny is a few months ago, after several losses, he was saying the Cowboys were qwap....But now, YEP, Dak has to help Jerry spread false hope for Cowboy fans, afterall what Jerry paid Dak caused the team to tie up all that Cap money, which left big holes in the roster....he's obligated.  Doesn't look good when ATT stadium is seeing empty seats and that isn't gonna sit well with Jerry, so start the propaganda .........And David Chancellor will have the #1 seat on the Cowboys band wagon 🤠 LOL!!!!...However, the REALITY is most "experts" are predicting another 7 win season and battling with the Giants trying to avoid last place in the NFC East!

[gardenman]

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@PARedbird wrote:

Did anyone read what Dak Prescott now said about the Cowboys?  He congratulated the Eagles and then had the nerve to say that they've competed with the Eagles and beat them for the most part when they played them.  Then went on to say, he feels they are getting very close to winning the Super Bowl.

Delusional like Jerry Jones?  LOL 

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All the Cowboys need is an offense and a defense and they'll be right there. As I type this, they have two upper-tier players on offense in CeeDee Lamb and Dak. That's not enough. They need o-linemen, a wide receiver or two, a tight end, several running backs, and a backup QB. Other than that though, the offense is fine. On defense, they're likely losing Demarcus Lawrence and Osa Odighizuwa, so they'll need d-line help. A few healthy linebackers and some DBs. They're wasting the best years of Micah Parsons (assuming they don't trade him) and you hate to waste the best years of a special guy. (CeeDee falls into that wasted talent pool for Dallas also.)

They don't have much cap space and are drafting after most of the big-name difference-makers will be gone. They don't have much money to spend in free agency and they have twenty-plus free agents of their own. Add in a whole new coaching staff that's smaller and cheaper than the old one and the odds of them reaching the Super Bowl anytime soon is pretty slim.

The Cowboys are largely destined for the middle of the pack for quite a while. Seven to ten wins would seem to be their ceiling. Four would be the floor. They'll be good enough to make a complete rebuild seem unnecessary, but not good enough to be a dominant team. They'll be trapped in mediocrity for a while. It's not an uncommon place for teams to be.

It's almost better to be really bad so a complete gut and rebuild makes more sense. When you're mediocre you can fool yourself into thinking, "We just need one or two guys and we'll be on top!" And you never get there. You keep fielding the same team as you believe they can do it if they just get a bit more help, but they can't.

The good news is they'll likely still be better than the Giants. This was the year for the Giants to say, "We're bad, it's time to rebuild." Bring in a new GM and new coaches. They didn't. They're running back the same guys who made them bad and that's probably not the best strategy. When your GM can't figure out that Saquon Barkley is a special player, you need a new GM. The Giants have a lot less talent on the roster than they did a year ago and that's not the direction you want the team to be going. 

The Giants could go 0-17 next year without a lot of trouble. Maybe that's the master plan, lose badly and get Arch Manning to ride to the rescue. Rebuild around a new Manning. They were pretty good with Eli Manning, so adding Arch Manning makes sense.

[Spurt]

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@gardenman wrote:

The Chiefs have far bigger issues. They've been drafting o-linemen and having them flop. Coaching? Bad evaluations? They need to fix that. Travis Kelce took quite a few plays off in the Super Bowl and became more of a spectator than a player even while on the field. He may be over it all by now and retiring. He won't be happy watching the film of that game and his actions. If you can't get up to play the Super Bowl it may be time to retire. He was sleepwalking through much of the game. An undisclosed injury hindering him or is he done?

Even with Mahomes at QB, the Chiefs could slide quite a bit going forward. They're going to need a very good offseason. The Chargers and Broncos are getting better and won't be pushovers much longer. The Bills, Bengals, and Ravens are all going to be working to get better. The Chiefs may not own the AFC much longer.

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@gardenman @PARedbird 

They are talking on the sports shows that even with Mahomes the Chiefs aren't gonna be ruling the AFC! The Bills, Ravens, Broncos, Texans, Chargers, Bengals (Bengals--with Burrows and keeping/signing weapons for him) they all smell " blood in the water" ....Kelce a key weapon, is DONE, his performance was---to quote the late great singer Robert Palmer "the lights were on, but no one was home"....He needs to join his brother, retire and enjoy his celebrity while he can.....wonder what "his honey" thinks about it all, she'd have to put up with Travis FULL TIME!...lol 

Andy needs to rebuild the offensive line which is hard to do picking #32  #31 and offensive linemen aren't lining up in free agency, plus finding a replacement for Kelce...

[PARedbird]

@gardenman and @Spurt - you both said it very well in your comments about the Cowboys!  They've got a ways to go and with Jerry as the "head coach" and boss, it won't happen soon!  The Giants?  A complete mess!

I've been reading several articles, too, about Travis Kelce, and how this was not the greatest year for him and especially the Super Bowl.  I also read that he's not going to rush into any decisions yet on retiring but several on the KC staff said they think he won't return.  And yeah, he can follow his boo around all over the world so wonder how long it would be before she's sick of him!  LOL!  Or she won't be happy as she also won't be in the NFL spotlight, so maybe she'll talk him into staying!  

I hope tht's corret that the Chiefs are done with their domination too!  I'd love to see another AFC head up to the top over them!  

@Spurt - David needs to put on his big boy pants - needs to accept and congratulate the Eagles!  I follow Chris Suchan on Instagram and Facebook - he's a huge KC fan and he even congratulated the Eagles - same with Eric Stonestreet, if you ever watched Modern Family - he's a huge Chiefs fan and did the same!