Hi folks! I was just diddling around reading and saw this thread. I see some didn't like this Nick Chavez Flocker. I've never tried it so I cannot give an opinion on it. Anyway, well, first of all, I'm a Wen girl for 11 years and this August, 2021 it'll be 12 but I always had a bit of trouble with my hair because when I round brushed, it would be too "big". I did not like all the ropey curls my hair would do. (I know, he has the models' hair like that) I don't want that. I want my hair just straight with body, swishy, I'll take a slight bend on the end. Okay, well. I stumbled on this product called, "WOW Skin Science". I got a few things in it but the best thing is this 10 in 1 spray something or other. You just spritz a bit on wet or dry hair, massage in roots and run fingers through. I do it before blow drying with a paddle brush. Round brushing makes too many curls. ick! LOL! The best thing is that it STAYS in the hair for days too. I mean the way it acts on the hair. So that's my grim little story. Just thought I'd throw in my two cents. XO