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Re: King Arthur response to my bug problem

Oh I wish I hadn’t seen this 🫣
I use King Authur flour in all my baking different varieties of the flours , so far ( knock on wood) I’ve never Had a problem with it and I’ve used a LOT
I put it in a large glass canister when I get it from the store
I hate you’ve had so many problems that has to be frustrating for you and expensive it’s well over $6 a bag the last I bought
I use it to make yeast rolls a lot and baking cakes
For me the bread flour makes the best yeast rolls of any I’ve tried
I’ve used it for years
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Re: King Arthur response to my bug problem


@Trailrun23 wrote:

Sounds like an ad for Lock & Lock! I do keep everything like rice, flour, cereal, etc. in them, so no bug worries. Wish they made some L&L big enough for my 45lb bag of.birdseed. 


For birdseed stored in the garage, I use a galvanized metal garbage can.  Rats and mice can chew through a plastic garbage can.  Ask me how I know this, lol.  Occasionally I do get those moths hatching out in the cheap bird seed I buy from Walmart.  Haven't had that problem yet from birdseed I buy from Ace Hardware that they put on sale occasionally.  Can't remember about the birdseed from Tractor Supply.  It's probably all from the same factory anyway, just packaged differently.

“Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” ~ Voltaire 1694-1778
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Re: King Arthur response to my bug problem

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How old was the flour you had with bugs?  What was the expiration date on the package?  I didn't see the original post.

@SharkE 

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Re: King Arthur response to my bug problem

Feb. 2024

 

 

I go along with the idea that they should package the product in a different way. Flour has went up in price just like everything else.  Flour isn't something you can rinse off in a strainer.

 

Somebody needs to pass a new restriction. I don't understand how any bug can survive in flour . Don't they need a water source ? do they just eat the flour ?

 

In future all my bags are going into the freezer, period, and not just for 48 hours it's living there. LOL  OXO makes good products. I even have the LOCK and lock biggest cannister they make, but , it would take up a lot of space in my tall freezer. Just have a small freezer.

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Re: King Arthur response to my bug problem

@SharkE  Sorry your flour let you down. KA gave good advice.   The Gov't doesn't even expect a 0%  extraneous material in foodstuffs.  It's guideline is all "Acceptable  percentages".

Freezing seems to be the way to go.  Not gone, but less extraneous protein and fiber to sift out. 

My guess is this was a common problem in days of old.  No freezers available so Sifting must have been the way to go.

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Re: King Arthur response to my bug problem

In some places in this world, steady electricity and a freezer are only dreams.

 

We were told to roast the flour and then get something metal with a good seal for storage.

 

Killed the eggs and we could either sift out the dead bugs or they would float up if there was a lot of liquid.

 

Another option is to buy flour in cans.  They usually advertise that the dead bugs have been removed.  Still works for longterm storage.  Check around.

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Re: King Arthur response to my bug problem

Flour in cans ? Never heard of that.

 

Where could that be found ?

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Re: King Arthur response to my bug problem

Augerson Farms has some products , but, the shipping

is out of this world because the products comes in great weights.

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Re: King Arthur response to my bug problem

I knew they get bugs in them. Only saw them in a different brand flour I bought years ago when they were out of KA. I always put my flour in ziplock bags in the freezer. When I take one out of the freezer I keep it in the refrigerator. 

Yum don't you just love to eat bugs. 

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Re: King Arthur response to my bug problem

The FDA does allow certain percentage of gross stuff in our foods. Check out this chart. Disgusting.

How about rodent hairs, maggots & weevils for dinner. There's more for dessert. 

 

Table: FDA Defect Action Levels

FOOD PRODUCTDEFECT LEVEL (Average sample unless otherwise indicated)

SEAFOOD 
Blue Fin and other Fresh Water Herring60 parasitic cysts per 100 fish (fish averaging 1 pound or less) or 100 pounds (fish averaging over 1 pound)
Red Fish and Ocean Perch3 % of the fillets examined contain 1 or more copepods (tiny crustaceans) accompanied by pus pockets
Whitefish, Tullibees, Ciscoes, Inconnus, and Chubs50 parasitic cysts per 100 pounds (whole or fillets)
  
VEGETABLES 
Beets (canned)5% or more pieces by weight with dry rot
Broccoli (frozen)60 or more aphids and/or thrips and/or mites per 100 grams
Corn, sweet(canned)2 or more 3 mm or longer larvae, cast skins, larval or cast skin fragments, the aggregate length of insects or insect parts exceeds 12 mm in 24 pounds
Brussels Sprouts (frozen)30 or more aphids and/or thrips per 100 grams
Mushrooms (canned and dried)20 or more maggots of any size per 100 grams of drained mushrooms or 15 grams of dried mushrooms, 5 or more maggots 2 mm or longer per 100 grams of drained mushrooms or 15 grams of dried mushrooms, 75 mites per 100 grams drained mushrooms or 15 grams of dried mushrooms
Spinach (canned or frozen)50 or more aphids, thrips and/or mites per 100 grams, 2 or more 3 mm or longer larvae and/or larval fragments or spinach worms (caterpillars) whose aggregate length exceeds 12 mm are present in 24 pounds
Tomatoes (canned)10 or more fly eggs per 500 grams, 5 or more fly eggs and 1 or more maggots per 500 grams, 2 or more maggots per 500 grams
Tomato paste or pizza sauce30 or more fly eggs per 100 grams, 15 or more fly eggs and 1 or more maggots per 100 grams, 2 or more maggots per 100 grams (in a minimum of 12 subsamples)
  
FRUITS 
Apricots (canned)2% or more by count has been damaged or infected by insects
Berries4 larvae or 10 whole insects per 500 grams or 10 or more whole insects or equivalent per 500 grams (excluding thrips, aphids, and mites)
Cherries (fresh, canned, or frozen)4% or more pieces are rejects due to insects other than maggots
Citrus fruit juices (canned)5 or more Drosophila and other fly eggs per 250 ml or 1 or more maggots per 250 ml
Dates (chopped, sliced, macerated)5 or more dead insects (whole or equivalent) per 100 grams
Figs10% or more by count are insect-infested
Peaches (canned and frozen)12 – 1lb cans – one or more larvae and/or larval fragments whose aggregate length exceeds 5 mm
  
GRAINS, NUTS, BEANS, ETC. 
Wheat32 or more insect-damaged kernels per 100 grams, 9 mg or more rodent excreta pellets and/or pellet fragments per kilogram
Wheat flour75 or more insect fragments per 50 grams, 1 or more rodent hairs per 50 grams (1 cup flour = 136 g = 4.8 oz)
Cornmeal25 or more insect fragments per 25 grams, 1 or more rodent hairs per 25 grams or 1 or more rodent excreta fragment per 50 grams
Macaroni and Noodle Products225 insect fragments or more per 225 grams (in 6 or more subsamples), 4.5 rodent hairs or more per 225 grams (in 6 or more subsamples)
Peas and Beans (dried)5% or more by count insect-infested and/or insect-damaged by storage insects (in a minimum of 12 subsamples)
Peanuts (shelled)20 or more whole insects or equivalent in 100-pound bag
Coffee beans10% or more by count are insect-infested or insect-damaged
Hops2,500 aphids or more per 10 grams
Cocoa beans75 or more insect fragments per subsample of 50 grams when 6 subsamples are examined, 6 or more subsamples is 2 or more rodent hairs per subsample of 50 grams
Chocolate and chocolate liquor60 or more insect fragments per 100 grams (in 6 – 100 g subsamples), 1 or more rodent hairs per 100 grams (in 6 – 100-gram subsamples)
Peanut butter30 or more insect fragments per 100 grams, 1 or more rodent hairs per 100 grams
  
SPICES 
Cinnamon (ground)400 or more insect fragments per 50 grams
Curry (powder)100 or more insect fragments per 25 grams, 4 or more rodent hairs per 25 grams
Fennel Seed20% or more of subsamples contain insects, 20% or more of subsamples contain mammalian excreta
Ginger (whole)3% or more pieces by weight are insect-infested, 3 mg or more of mammalian excreta per pound
Nutmeg (ground)100 or more insect fragments per 10 grams, 1 or more rodent hairs per 10 grams
Oregano (ground)1250 or more insect fragments per 10 grams, 5 or more rodent hairs per 10 grams
Pepper (ground)475 or more insect fragments per 50 grams, 2 or more rodent hairs per 50 grams
Sage (ground)200 or more insect fragments per 10 grams, 9 or more rodent hairs per 10 grams
Thyme (ground)925 or more insect fragments per 10 grams, 2 or more rodent hairs per 10 grams