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[Kathy19078]

I just had a bilateral mastectomy for breast cancer on 5/5/14, and I read on the internet that soy should be eliminated from my diet because it causes your body to produce estrogen. I do still have my overies but not my utereus. My cancer was estrogen and progesterone positive and HER2 negative. It was not in my lymph nodes. I am finding it very difficult to find products that do not contain soy!!! I am going to check my local bakery as they do make bread every day and see if it has soy it. I am determined to find products without soy, and if necessary make my own bread and other products. Is anyone else having a difficult time finding products that do not contain soy?

[Clover29]

Can you get Dave's Killer Bread where you live? They have it on the west coast but I don't know how localized it is. It doesn't contain soy, the brand is proud to say so.

[jaxs mom]

Well, you could bake your own.

[Kjelle]

Kathy, very sorry to hear about your health issue and I'm glad you are a survivor. . Take a look at this Johns Hopkins article on 10 Breast Cancer myths, though and talk to your doctor before you drive yourself crazy over soy. The #1 myth is about soy. It says,

<h4>MYTH: Eating soy products after having hormone receptor positive breast cancer increases my chance of a recurrence.</h4>

FACT: Research on soy has been conflicting over the years. It has the capacity to mimic as well as block certain estrogens. Overall, natural dietary soy in the form of soy milk, soy bean sprouts, tofu or tempeh appears to be safe and may provide significant health benefits when it replaces animal sources of milk and protein. However, soy in concentrated forms such as pills, powders and supplements has the strongest potential for estrogenic activity and probably should be avoided by anyone who has been diagnosed with hormonal receptive breast cancer.

http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/avon_foundation_breast_center/treatments_services/survivor_care/myth...

So this is Johns Hopkins, not some nutty site. If you are not taking one of the concentrated forms, your doctor may say eating bread is just fine. Along with all the things you are probably doing to stay healthy, you may be able to relax and enjoy the yummy breads and leave the cardboard kind alone! Good Luck!!

[Lacey1]

Kathy: Another cancer patient here. I was also worried about plant hormones. I've heard conflicting reports. Here's what I do. Fermented/cooked soy is okay. I avoid raw products such as soy milk, edamame, etc. But, honestly I just try to avoid it without driving myself nuts about it. Not to mention, it's on the list of GMO foods.

I know the last thing on your list of things to do is baking bread! I got a Vitamix and starting drinking green smoothies,(a lot of Kale!). I eat a lot of organic foods.

One thing you might want to check out is broccoli sprout extract capsules. I buy it from Vitacost. I've been taking two capsules daily for past 4 years.

Also check out the Cultures for Health website. Lots of info about fermented/cultured food, probiotics, etc.

Good luck on your journey. I have said a prayer for your continued health.

[wagirl]

I had hormone positive breast cancer 2 years ago and thought the very same thing as you with the soy products. And I have to agree with lacey 1/ kjelle on their info. I go to a regular oncologist as well as a naturopathic oncologist that both say to soy is ok if it isn't gmo or processed to the brink of being unrecognizable. Now I don't eat soy several times a day but I do eat Ezekial bread which is made from sprouted whole grains including soy but is all organic. I get it at Trader Joes for $2.99 a loaf. I don't drink soymilk or eat tofu and try to read the labels as soy is another thing that is in everything and I'm sure its not the good soy. I would have to agree that a bread machine is a good thing to have if you want truly soy free bread.

Kathy--hope you are healing well. I have been in your shoes and know what a journey this has been and will be. Have you visited the Cancer Survivors thread in the Health and Wellness board? Tons of info there from a really great bunch of ladies going thru this too. I got so much support and friendship there. Try it out.

lacey---I hope you are doing well too! This cancer business is a wild ride. I make green smoothies with lots of kale and other super greens and am convinced that help me go thru chemo easier, if there is such a thing.

[Lacey1]

On 5/16/2014 wagirl said:

I had hormone positive breast cancer 2 years ago and thought the very same thing as you with the soy products. And I have to agree with lacey 1/ kjelle on their info. I go to a regular oncologist as well as a naturopathic oncologist that both say to soy is ok if it isn't gmo or processed to the brink of being unrecognizable. Now I don't eat soy several times a day but I do eat Ezekial bread which is made from sprouted whole grains including soy but is all organic. I get it at Trader Joes for $2.99 a loaf. I don't drink soymilk or eat tofu and try to read the labels as soy is another thing that is in everything and I'm sure its not the good soy. I would have to agree that a bread machine is a good thing to have if you want truly soy free bread.

Kathy--hope you are healing well. I have been in your shoes and know what a journey this has been and will be. Have you visited the Cancer Survivors thread in the Health and Wellness board? Tons of info there from a really great bunch of ladies going thru this too. I got so much support and friendship there. Try it out.

lacey---I hope you are doing well too! This cancer business is a wild ride. I make green smoothies with lots of kale and other super greens and am convinced that help me go thru chemo easier, if there is such a thing.

Than you for your kind words. I know you are being proactive and doing everything right to get well. I had an abnormal mammogram/ultrasound on Monday. It was finally read as a 'Benign nodule'. Whew!!! You are right- Chemo is not for sissies!!

[willdob3]

Kathy, I hope you are doing well & heal quickly.

You would probably be smart to avoid all grains.

I do not buy any products containing soy or grains or sugars. I eat mostly unprocessed/low-processed foods so I avoid the unhealthy ingredients that way.

There are a lot of recipes for bread that use almond meal & coconut flour. The only one I ever make is a Jorge Cruise Skinny Muffin. I found I don't really need bread even though it was one of my main foods years ago.

[wagirl]

On 5/16/2014 lacey1 said:

On 5/16/2014 wagirl said:

I had hormone positive breast cancer 2 years ago and thought the very same thing as you with the soy products. And I have to agree with lacey 1/ kjelle on their info. I go to a regular oncologist as well as a naturopathic oncologist that both say to soy is ok if it isn't gmo or processed to the brink of being unrecognizable. Now I don't eat soy several times a day but I do eat Ezekial bread which is made from sprouted whole grains including soy but is all organic. I get it at Trader Joes for $2.99 a loaf. I don't drink soymilk or eat tofu and try to read the labels as soy is another thing that is in everything and I'm sure its not the good soy. I would have to agree that a bread machine is a good thing to have if you want truly soy free bread.

Kathy--hope you are healing well. I have been in your shoes and know what a journey this has been and will be. Have you visited the Cancer Survivors thread in the Health and Wellness board? Tons of info there from a really great bunch of ladies going thru this too. I got so much support and friendship there. Try it out.

lacey---I hope you are doing well too! This cancer business is a wild ride. I make green smoothies with lots of kale and other super greens and am convinced that help me go thru chemo easier, if there is such a thing.

Than you for your kind words. I know you are being proactive and doing everything right to get well. I had an abnormal mammogram/ultrasound on Monday. It was finally read as a 'Benign nodule'. Whew!!! You are right- Chemo is not for sissies!!

lacey--boy I bet you feel like a ton has been lifted off your shoulders!!! And bravo to you for finding this nasty little thing and taking care of it ASAP !!!

[chickenbutt]

Isn't that the truth! I'm another one for whom soy is a very bad choice. But I'm finding that soy is in pretty much EVERYTHING. I just try to be as careful as I can that I'm not using anything that has soy as a major ingredient and hoping for the best.