Is 14K mark deceptive? - Page 5

chickenbutt · ‎03-09-2010

I don't understand the confusion over the hallmarking. I DO understand that some folks enjoy the resin/silicon filled jewelry and that's great.

But the point of how it should be hallmarked should be pretty simple. If the piece is 14 parts gold, 10 parts alloy, and ZERO parts anything else (like the law always stated in the past) it should be able to be hallmarked 14k.

If there is anything else there, they should not be able to hallmark it 14k. The entirety of the piece, sans any gemstones, has to be 14k gold.

With the gold over silver costume jewelry, at least in the past, it always had to be hallmarked .925 (the hallmark for sterling silver), BECAUSE the core of the piece was sterling silver. The same type of rule should apply if these pieces have a core of something aside from gold.

I hope people enjoy the pieces they receive. But I think it's very important that there is no deception. I don't buy my jewelry just to sell it, like probably 99.99% of everybody else here, either. But if I find that a piece hallmarked 14k had silicone, resin, silver, other mystery metal, or anything else inside it, then I would have been deceived and/or would have paid way too much for the miniscule amount of actual gold I received. Not to mention the expectation of integrity of the piece. Hollow gold pieces have been an industry standard since forever. But it needs to have a certain amount of gold weight to hold up. If they can reduce that greatly and fill it with something else, it's just much less likely to hold up.

Anyway, sorry to go on and on. But I think sometimes the actual point gets missed here and it's not about if somebody wants to buy resin-filled gold and somebody else doesn't. It's more about the hallmarking and why it is misleading to hallmark something that is not ALL gold/alloy.

millieshops · ‎03-09-2010

As long as you have the money, go for whatever you want. In fact, there's a Cartier diamond ring advertised in Saturday's WSJ that would be a great place to start spending - 63 carats for the center stone, surrounded by highways of individual diamond stones (not pave) which they say took 2000 hours of work to make. No price given, but if you have to ask..... meet me at the gold over resin counter.

smarty · ‎12-17-2011

On 1/24/2014 evergreen said:
I wonder how much gold has to be in the piece before it gets the designation 14k.

.585/1.0 real gold 1.0=24k; .75=18k; .585=14k

islandgrrl · ‎06-20-2010

On 1/25/2014 millieshops said:
As long as you have the money, go for whatever you want. In fact, there's a Cartier diamond ring advertised in Saturday's WSJ that would be a great place to start spending - 63 carats for the center stone, surrounded by highways of individual diamond stones (not pave) which they say took 2000 hours of work to make. No price given, but if you have to ask..... meet me at the gold over resin counter.

millie: you kill me! I wish you were my next door neighbor. I have a feeling we would get in lots of good laughs.

Debbie1426 · ‎09-12-2012

I wonder whether anyone has take one of these pieces to those shops who buy gold for scrap. Normally they just test it and weight it. How would they know it was filled?

LucyGoose · ‎04-20-2012

On 1/25/2014 millieshops said:
As long as you have the money, go for whatever you want. In fact, there's a Cartier diamond ring advertised in Saturday's WSJ that would be a great place to start spending - 63 carats for the center stone, surrounded by highways of individual diamond stones (not pave) which they say took 2000 hours of work to make. No price given, but if you have to ask..... meet me at the gold over resin counter.

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armomo3 · ‎09-24-2015

@Anniecamp wrote:
I've seen some nice pieces on QVC, but have hesitated because of it possibly being filled with something and marked 14K.
I don't see why they mark it as 14K. HSN's Technibond is 14K over .925 sterling silver, so it's all quality metal. I have some nice pieces of it. Have had some of it for many years, and it still looks beautiful.
A refinery will pay you for the gold + the silver if someone wants to sell it.

No they will not. A refinery will only pay for the silver. There's not enough gold to deal with.

armomo3 · ‎09-24-2015

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@ArmoBuyer wrote:
On 1/24/2014 ennui1 said:
On 1/24/2014 dooBdoo said:
On 1/24/2014 ennui1 said:
On 1/24/2014 Anniecamp said:
I don't see why they mark it as 14K.
Because it IS 14k.
Honestly, do you people buy jewelry to wear, or just to scrap?

With all due respect, ennui1, I think we all buy it to wear but we also deserve to know whether it's solid gold, gold over sterling, gold-filled, electroplate, a thin sheet of gold over silicone or resin, etc. I think the mark is deceptive.
It's not deceptive. If you remove the resin core, it is still 14K.
You don't think there are thousands of unemployed lawyers looking for something to do? You don't think QVC has rooms full of lawyers? If it was fraudulent, they wouldn't do it.
Maybe people don't understand "14k."
Ennui1, are you always this condescending? I started this thread. Yes, I have purchased lovely gold jewelry which I treasure and wear. No, I do not just scrap my jewelry; the pieces I sold were for the most part inherited and/or broken, mismatched or otherwise unusable. Those lawyers you refer to are probably equally busy figuring out how to slice the bologna as they are "protecting" us from fraud. Oh, and "Yes" we do understand 14K...and it's not a plastic or silicone derivative.

For example, Weighted Sterling candlesticks are marked "weighted" sterling or 925

kivah · ‎03-11-2010

I would never buy anything resin-filled, bronzo -- I ONLY purchase 14KT and 18KT gold jewelry. Today I was in Costco --- great prices for 14KT Italian Gold. I saw a pair of 14KT gold hoop earrings, around 1-1/4"--- 1-1/2", for $189. Next time I'm at Costco, I'll buy them. They also have pendants, bracelets, rings, etc. No need to spend lots of money for gold.

violann · ‎03-10-2010

I choose not to buy resin/gold, but I did happen to look at a piece that was advertised on the Q over the weekend that DID have a marking that indicated it was not entirely made of gold.

I don't remember the marking, and as I recall, it was not crystal clear to me what it was.

I think it was 14k with someting else following it.