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03-11-2016 10:33 AM
to help someone else declutter and get rid of their excess, than it is to do your own?
I know the answer, because you have less attachment to the 'stuff'!
My mom, who is going to be 80 this year, has been complaining about her house for quite some time. Very small, and little storage space. She is frustrated that every time she wants something from a closet or cabinet, it is a major undertaking to get to what she wants.
I went up to simply help her organize her clothing better, and it turned into a complete purge.
She is very clean and organized, but too much stuff for a space, is just too much stuff for a space.
We weeded out a lot of old clothing not being worn, and some that was just beyond it's life. She was having a tendency to save boxes. I must have thrown out a dozen nice sturdy boxes, but they were empty and taking up space. She was saving them 'just in case I need them to store something later". She is better than that old lady who keeps every bread wrapper and margarine tub, but still, the boxes had to go.
Some of her nice decorative boxes that she uses for storage were only partially full. Wasted space. I condensed many of those, and stored like things together. She had multiple pieces of one set of something in several different boxes. Makes sense to put everything from a set in one place.
She had been using her oven and dishwasher to store pots and pans (very small kitchen), and I knew I could condense that stuff to open up the oven entirely. She did battle me on that one, until I helped her to see that one lady, living alone, who almost never cooks anymore, doesn't need three large stock pots, and an additional 5 lids that fit nothing she currently owns (she tossed the pans years ago, but never got rid of their lids). We took all the lock and lock sets, and kept only the big storage pieces in use, and those sets that nest inside each other with the lids on. The others went, as they take up too much space to store.
And the home decor storage closet was purged as well. Tried to make it more about keeping things that were multi functional (lanterns that can be changed inside for the seasons, rather than lit pumpkins only good for one season). Anything crazed, shipped, cracked or just blah looking went as well.
It was easier to do than when I look at my own stuff. We talked about what we should just stop buying, as it makes no sense to get rid of 7 of any given thing, still have four more for current use,then bring more of the same into the house on the next shopping trip. We talked about the reality of age, and just how much longer we might live, and just how much need of or use we will get out of having too much of any given thing.
I never would tell her what to do or demand what she must get rid of what she can keep, but simply asked her what has more value to her, a clean and usable space, or having more things. I'm a firm believer that if you don't mind keeping, cleaning, storing and living with your 'things' then it is all good. When it becomes an issue is when you are frustrated with the look, the work, the inability to access what you need/want easily etc., then it is time to make some changes.
Her front porch is loaded with what will probably be a small pick up truck load, and I'll be bringing it down to add to all I cleaned out this winter, and when the weather breaks, we will have one big garage sale. Anything left (and there is usually plenty) will go to the thrift store in town.
It was really good to see the progress we made, and it was really less painful for her to part with many things, than I thought it would be. I expected to have a real fight on my hands, and there were only a few things we disagreed about, but I let her be the final judge of what she wanted to keep or move on.
I think we could probably do it all again in a few months, as this kind of thing gets easier to do when you part with things, and after some time has passed, you don't regret it one bit, but actually are happy with the changes.
Now, who volunteers to come be my impartial purger, and help me pare down my own house ever more?
03-11-2016 11:15 AM
what an excellent post !!! You probably didn't get real battles with your Mom because you truly listened to her and let her answer your " choice " questions. Then, you followed her choice. She trusted you. Now, she can enjoy living in her small space and as you indicated the next later session should be a repeat success because she now has experienced less frustration and more space.
You also gave me a chuckle as I remembered how we found that my Mom had cleaned and stored individually paper-troweled wrapped styrofoam meat containers in a huge storage box in her attic. I have no idea what she was going to do with them since crafting was not something she did. When we first found the box, we thought some treasure was being kept there....NOT ! LOL.
03-11-2016 11:25 AM
Great post @Mominohio. I wonder if your Mom could be impartial and help you pare down your stash of this and that. She's on a roll now to free up space in her house and might help you as well. I'd be no good to you as we'd be talking about CIJ and adding more to the already packed decor areas. lol Good luck!
03-11-2016 12:08 PM
@MominohioYou gave your mom a gift money cannot buy! And probably had a difficult, but good day for both of you. Great story - and you inspired me as you wrote. Thank you for that, too.
03-11-2016 12:45 PM
@jlkz wrote:what an excellent post !!! You probably didn't get real battles with your Mom because you truly listened to her and let her answer your " choice " questions. Then, you followed her choice. She trusted you. Now, she can enjoy living in her small space and as you indicated the next later session should be a repeat success because she now has experienced less frustration and more space.
You also gave me a chuckle as I remembered how we found that my Mom had cleaned and stored individually paper-troweled wrapped styrofoam meat containers in a huge storage box in her attic. I have no idea what she was going to do with them since crafting was not something she did. When we first found the box, we thought some treasure was being kept there....NOT ! LOL.
This made me smile, as I had a great aunt that was born in 1900. She came up through all the trying times of the first half of the 20th century, and while the cleanest and most organized woman, she saved EVERYTHING!
When they finally moved her out of her big home at about 92 years of age, the new owners found, neat as you please, boxes of bread wrappers, margarine tubs, twist ties etc. stored for future needs and uses.
I know some people never get past the time in their life when they had to do without, and simply tuck things away in case that ever happens in their life again.
03-11-2016 12:53 PM
UPDATE
I went up to mom's this morning, and she had been at it again. She condensed some things, and I took three big plastic tubs that bird seed had come in and were being used for holiday storage, plus 4 decorative boxes from Tova and Temp-tations that she had saved 'just because they were pretty' but had nothing stored in them.
She was so proud of deciding to eliminate that stuff all by herself.
And she has her linen closet emptied, as I've been asking her about her sheets for awhile now. She got a new mattress and box spring, the great big thick kind, and I suspect that her older sheets won't fit (I know mine didn't when we got our new bed). I wanted to help her go through those and get out the ones that she'll never use again.
At 80, I'm just assuming that this will be the last bed (mattress and box spring) she will buy, but her grandma lived to be 102, and basically sat down and died. So, with the current life of mattresses (10 years, is it now?), it would be wonderful if mom lived to need another new mattress or two!
Gotta love moms.
03-11-2016 01:17 PM
Mominohio this is a lovely post! I applaud your understanding and kindness to your Mom in letting her have final say in the disposition.
I'm trying to do this for myself and I must say I usually only get part way through an area before the "what ifs" attack and I end up with less going out than being re-shelved. There was a simplify post running on the boards for awhile that was very inspirational, but I believe they've accomplished what they wanted because it's not on-going any longer.
I've just replaced a mattress as well. Downsized from king to queen; but the new mattress is very high and I haven't been able to find fitted sheets deep enough to stay on the mattress. So I bought a set of "sheet suspenders" and put them on one side of the bed, then tucked the "extra" under the other side. Since the mattress is so tall, the extra hang down of the king top sheet on the new queen isn't really an issue, and once you get under the covers there's nice overage.
Wishing a Successful Happy Spring Cleaning to all.............
03-11-2016 01:17 PM
@Mominohio wrote:UPDATE
I went up to mom's this morning, and she had been at it again. She condensed some things, and I took three big plastic tubs that bird seed had come in and were being used for holiday storage, plus 4 decorative boxes from Tova and Temp-tations that she had saved 'just because they were pretty' but had nothing stored in them.
She was so proud of deciding to eliminate that stuff all by herself.
And she has her linen closet emptied, as I've been asking her about her sheets for awhile now. She got a new mattress and box spring, the great big thick kind, and I suspect that her older sheets won't fit (I know mine didn't when we got our new bed). I wanted to help her go through those and get out the ones that she'll never use again.
At 80, I'm just assuming that this will be the last bed (mattress and box spring) she will buy, but her grandma lived to be 102, and basically sat down and died. So, with the current life of mattresses (10 years, is it now?), it would be wonderful if mom lived to need another new mattress or two!
Gotta love moms.
@Mominohio Wouldn't it be wonderful if we could all go that way. I have always thought that everyone should live long, and just go in their sleep, no pain and suffering.
03-11-2016 04:46 PM
I'm glad you helped your Mom out in such a kind, loving way! I had to read your post 'cause just this week I called this place I donate to to come and pick up some items. You're right, in my case anyways, it's a form of attachment. Also, it's I'll wear it, use it - when... Only - when - never came! So, totally purged, including Logos, D&B, among others. Usually I go there and drop off - and buy something (duh!); but, it's for a good cause. They've built and support a Christian school, open to all students in quite a few towns. People donate furniture, household goods, clothing, books, whatever, all in good condition. But, I had picked up one of those Masterbuilt grills off the Q. Never used it. Guess, I'm just not into cooking that much to run outside to make dinner - it was a costly lesson. But, well worth it. The man who loaded up his SUV was just thrilled at their receiving a "brand-new electric grill". Had to call them back for something, and spoke with the girl I had initially spoken with who recognized my voice and was thrilled by what they had received. It was totally a win-win situation. I was so pleased that I could help a good cause; they were pleased cause donations supports student tuition, maintenance, etc. And, IMO purging eliminates clutter, let alone stress! And, I learned a good lesson - when - never comes! So, if you don't use it, lose it!!! (Think that's a good motto when decluttering.)
As for your Mom, and others of that generation, they lived thru the Great Depression: a truly horrific time, yet also a good time, when people came together and helped one another. But, you've managed to, and in a most nice way, to get your Mom to overcome the fear of being without: aside from gifting her with your time, showing her how important she is to you, she'll fearlessly be enjjoying the rest of her life. Bravo!
03-11-2016 06:03 PM
I have little trouble purging. I probably get rid of too much stuff. My family always asks for my opinion on their purging projects. They don't always do what I suggest, but they always ask. My mother is a tough one. She has some attachments that are impossible to break. It's her stuff. I give her my opinion on why she should let go of things, but I don't push her.
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