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@debic wrote:

I love mine.    I do have a high water setting tho, which I use for towels and rinse twice. 


Yes, another thing I no longer have is the option for a second rinse.Even though I rarely used it I wish it was still there.

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@151949 wrote:

@Perkup wrote:

 


@151949 wrote:

I hate these water savers, even on super the tub is less than half full of water so you have to divide what would be a normal load into 2 loads. So where is the water savings?All this does is waste time and not really save any water.I also doubt the clothes are getting agitated enough in such a small amount of water.

My old washer - which was only 5 years old - filled the tub about 2/3 and had a 30 min soak cycle that I loved because the clothes got very clean. Now I have to do many more loads - there is no soak cycle to get things really clean and I haven't actually saved any water. 

It's a top loader with agitator. I want my old washer back.


As do I.  The clothes are beat to death in a very small amount of water for much too long.  Finally it will fill, but not until things are beat up.  If you open the lid, there will be a little more water added, but not enough.  I want my old washer back too.  This is definitely not an improvement. DON'T FALL INTO THE TRAP OF BUYING THIS "NEW" INNOVATION.  IT'S AWFUL!! I OFTEN HAVE TO REWASH THINGS.


Unfortunately water savers are a requirement on many things like washing machines.It can't be avoided unless you buy an old used one.

I really hate the water saver on the toilet - you have to flush it about 2 or 3 times to get everything to go down. Where is there any water savings in that!


 

There are still a handful of old style full fill washers out there and Speed Queen makes one of them.

 

They can be more expensive than the typical top loader, but so well worth it.

 

I agree with the point about having to do twice as many loads or wash them twice to get them clean, so definitely no water savings, plus using more electricity.

 

For those looking at new washers, ask a lot of questions, and make sure all the things you are looking for are features before buying, If not move on.

 

AT one time, I had heard that 2017 was the cut off date for full fill washers, but I haven't seen any really current information on the subject.

 

I'm considering buying one before they can't be had, and storing it for when my current full fill washer gives out.

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OP, I feel its only you, the consumer, that feels that in order to get clothes clean you need oodles of water! Come to find out the new washers use very little water because thats all you need! I have never changed my washing habits from my old washer to my new HE washer. I never only wash half a load. I throw everything in, like always, and my wash comes out clean, fresh and smelling great! Perhaps its the brand of washer you bought the reason you are having such problems.


I'll have to agree wholeheartedly with the OP. 

 

Everyone's laundry habits and clothing are different, but we all don't work in an office and wash clothing that really is never dirty. I live the life of a small farm and have a mechanic husband and machinist son. We see dirty, greasy and muddy clothing like many living in a city would never. 

 

My clothing would never come clean with the little bit of water the HE washers consider enough.

 

I don't need the government telling me how much water to use in my laundry. I have my own well and septic, and out of necessity have become my own conservationist, as those systems and their maintenance are totally up to me. I can't afford to overuse/abuse them. We also don't have a water crisis in my area. 

 

I think having options of HE equipment is wonderful, but mandates are not. I might even understand areas that suffer from extreme drought having HE standards, but really, it would make more sense in those areas to ration water, and let each consumer decide just how and where they use their ration of scarce water, instead of dictating such.

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@151949 wrote:

@debic wrote:

I love mine.    I do have a high water setting tho, which I use for towels and rinse twice. 


Yes, another thing I no longer have is the option for a second rinse.Even though I rarely used it I wish it was still there.


I have a GE that is a few years old, but still fills full, has  hot water available, and full agitatior. I like it because I can open the lid, and use a magnet to wash the entire load with the lid up if I wish to!

 

The one thing I have learned to do if I want a second rinse or a hot rinse, is to simply stop the washer and reset it to the wash cycle to get a nice long and hot rinse cycle (as opposed to the shorter and cold only option it offers). You do have to be available to catch the end of the cycles and move the dial, and I am certain a lot of people wouldn't have or take the time to do so, but it works for me when I need to use it that way.

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@151949 wrote:

@debic wrote:

I love mine.    I do have a high water setting tho, which I use for towels and rinse twice. 


Yes, another thing I no longer have is the option for a second rinse.Even though I rarely used it I wish it was still there.


The last one I had didn't agitate back and forth, it turned only one way.   When we got it it was a new thing, supposed to pull your clothes down in the center and come out cleaner.   All's it did was stretch out my clothes, so this one is a dream for me.

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@Mominohio wrote:

@151949 wrote:

@debic wrote:

I love mine.    I do have a high water setting tho, which I use for towels and rinse twice. 


Yes, another thing I no longer have is the option for a second rinse.Even though I rarely used it I wish it was still there.


I have a GE that is a few years old, but still fills full, has  hot water available, and full agitatior. I like it because I can open the lid, and use a magnet to wash the entire load with the lid up if I wish to!

 

The one thing I have learned to do if I want a second rinse or a hot rinse, is to simply stop the washer and reset it to the wash cycle to get a nice long and hot rinse cycle (as opposed to the shorter and cold only option it offers). You do have to be available to catch the end of the cycles and move the dial, and I am certain a lot of people wouldn't have or take the time to do so, but it works for me when I need to use it that way.


@Mominohio We must have the same model!  I do the same thing when I want a second rinse.

I've been wanting it to die and go away because it's so noisy, has been since the day we got it but I'm having second thoughts now when I read all the other posts.

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@Mominohio wrote:

@ID2 wrote:

OP, I feel its only you, the consumer, that feels that in order to get clothes clean you need oodles of water! Come to find out the new washers use very little water because thats all you need! I have never changed my washing habits from my old washer to my new HE washer. I never only wash half a load. I throw everything in, like always, and my wash comes out clean, fresh and smelling great! Perhaps its the brand of washer you bought the reason you are having such problems.


I'll have to agree wholeheartedly with the OP. 

 

Everyone's laundry habits and clothing are different, but we all don't work in an office and wash clothing that really is never dirty. I live the life of a small farm and have a mechanic husband and machinist son. We see dirty, greasy and muddy clothing like many living in a city would never. 

 

My clothing would never come clean with the little bit of water the HE washers consider enough.

 

I don't need the government telling me how much water to use in my laundry. I have my own well and septic, and out of necessity have become my own conservationist, as those systems and their maintenance are totally up to me. I can't afford to overuse/abuse them. We also don't have a water crisis in my area. 

 

I think having options of HE equipment is wonderful, but mandates are not. I might even understand areas that suffer from extreme drought having HE standards, but really, it would make more sense in those areas to ration water, and let each consumer decide just how and where they use their ration of scarce water, instead of dictating such.


So true - we don't have drought here in florida or , as you know, in western pa when I'm there. I don't think it is fair to mandate everyone save water. 

It would be better even if they would just make the washer tub smaller so the water comes up higher and the clothes are at least submerged. 

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@panda1234 wrote:

@akaburtonfan wrote:

I have a Speed Queen washer and dryer and love them. I wouldn't buy any other brand. This is my second set. 


I feel the same way. How long did you have the first set?


I would say it was approx 20 years -- without getting the receipt for the new set out I have to go by memory which is not always perfect.  Smiley Wink

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Re: Water levels on new washers - UGG!

I'll give another nod to the speed queen top loader.   I bought one a while ago and love it.  Wash loads get done in a nifty 30-35 minutes and come out clean.   The innerds of the machine are well built to last a long time too, mostly metal parts where it counts....I too was becoming a little concerned about rumors that even speed queen would soon (like maybe in 2017) have to bow to the government nannies and not allow freedom of water fill like they currently have on the machines....so....even though I have one of the last remaining topload  Whirlpool washers that allow water fill control, I decided to get a speed queen with the mechanical controls as a safe guard....I am using both alternately now, though I tend to use the speed queen the most now for the shorter wash cycles....my Whirlpool is good though, no need to get rid of it and it is slightly larger inside.

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i have an he washer. if u washer half the amount of clothes thinking machine is using more water its not. because machine is weighting amount of clothes u put in and ajusts amount of water. so your just using more electric and soap.