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I've seen that Kilz needs to used to prep before painting. Have any of you here ever done this and have info to pass along on doing this? Also think I might do the bathroom. Can't think of what this is called...board with wallpaper on it. I may need to prep that too. The area by the sink (sink is right up against a side, small area,) that needs something new. Need to put washable paint on it I think. Any ideas if you've done this before to pass along? Think while we'll soon be able to open windows for fresh air and before it gets humid, that it might be a good time to see about it. Thanks!!

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I've never painted over wall paper. I would probably remove it first.

We always use a paint/primer in one now. Most good paint comes with a primer already mixed in.

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On 4/8/2014 brii said:

I've never painted over wall paper. I would probably remove it first.

We always use a paint/primer in one now. Most good paint comes with a primer already mixed in.

Sometimes if it was not properly put on to begin with you CAN'T get it off without removing the top layer of the wall board. In that case, you have to use "mud" and tape over the seams and sand it down and such and so forth. Put a layer of sizing over the paper and paint or put on more wallpaper. Then after it is properly done you can remove that second layer of paper and repaper again when tastes change.

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I would not do this. Over time the glues that hold wallpaper on fail and it peels and it would ruin the paint job. Plus wallpapers usually have texture to them that would show through the paint.However, I have a friend who just bought a mobile home and wanted to cover up the 1990's southwest decor and she did paint over the walls that were made from that board with the paper attached and it looks very nice. She did use Kilz as her first coat to hide the print - then she painted it ivory.
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It can be more costly and labor intensive to remove it, but that's what I'd do. Painting over wallpaper, more times than not, looks exactly like what it is... paint over wall paper. The texture of the paper is likely going to show through, if not now then later. Moreover, as the paper deteriorates, so will the paint.


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Years ago when I was young, I used to wallpaper every room in my house. The man building my house even hired me to paper some of the other houses he was building.

It is very difficult to paint over. I've never done it. I wouldn't advise it. Like someone else said, you have to make sure you have the seams sealed with mud, if you don't you will be able to see every single seam.

Mud is very tricky to smooth out bla bla I could go on but you'll go crazy trying to get the wall 'sized' before you even start to paint.

Removing the paper can be time consuming and difficult (though they have a lot of new stuff out there that sure works better than when I did it.

It will be easier to remove if the person who put it down sized the wall BEFORE they put the paper down. Here's how it works. If they sized the wall before the paper was put down it means they applied a water-like substance that sealed the wall and kept it from absorbing all of the glue that's on the paper (if it was pre-glued). This still allowed the paper to stick to the wall it just kept it from being absorbed by the wallboard and kept it from separating (the paper would separate and it probably will to some degree anyway).

Make sure you get the equipment you will need to remove the wallpaper. You will need to 'mark it' before you try to remove it. I'm not familiar with the new stuff they sell but I've been told they make it relatively (subjective word) easy to remove paper these days. Again, it depends on how the paper was put up.

I have removed paper from my walls. Sometimes it was easy and sometimes I ended up digging holes (which I had to use mud to fill and sand down before I painted the walls) in the wall!

You'll do fine. Just allow plenty of time and don't get frustrated. It is probably pretty easy these days compared to the old days when I tried to do it.

To sum up (Phew! I told you I'm long-winded) I wouldn't paint over it. Just take an area that isn't easily seen and try to remove the paper but size it first.

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I redid a kitchen in an older home that had hideous wallpaper on wallboard a few years ago. I put bead board up first and painted it. Looked beautiful!

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I would never do it - nor put new roof shingles over the previous layer.

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I moved into a 1940's farmhouse ten years ago. They had never painted the walls or ceilings. They always wallpapered everything including the ceilings and must of done it every year. After removing six layers of wallpaper it became obvious I needed to do something for a quick fix until my husband and I could rip out the walls and replace them. I took off any wallpaper that was peeling taped up the seems with mud and lightly sanded them down. I knew I did not have the ability to sand down the entire walls to a smooth finish so I chose to orange peel them. I bought a big fluffy roll brush and dipped it in the mud and painted my entire walls that way with the mud. It did put a small texture on the walls. After I did that, I painted with kiltz oil base and then I painted with regular paint. The two rooms I have left that I have not had a chance to rip out are still looking good ten years later and I get a lot of compliments on those two rooms. The wallpaper still does not show through and it is not peeled off the walls. That being said, it would probably be best to remove the paper, patch, kilz and then paint.

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I've seen it done but would not recommend. It never looks as good as if you primed/skim coated & painted new sheet rock. Removing the old sheet rock can be messy but it's worth it in the end to have it look nice. Cutting corners ends up costing more money in the end.