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06-23-2025 12:53 PM
@PA Mom-mom wrote:@Oznell We had that happen with a Queen Elizabeth rose. We bought it for my daughter's birthday when she was pretty young, and it lasted many years. Then, one year it didn't make it. The root it was grafted to continued to grow. I never tried to find out what kind of rose it was. DH thought he successfully dug it out or cut it off, but it keeps coming back each year. Now, it's surrounded by other plants. Maybe we should move it and give it a chance.
Now that you mention it, I think the "Doctor" appeared where my Queen Elizabeth was growing.
Her personal physician, I assume.
06-23-2025 01:04 PM
@just bee wrote:
@PA Mom-mom wrote:@Oznell We had that happen with a Queen Elizabeth rose. We bought it for my daughter's birthday when she was pretty young, and it lasted many years. Then, one year it didn't make it. The root it was grafted to continued to grow. I never tried to find out what kind of rose it was. DH thought he successfully dug it out or cut it off, but it keeps coming back each year. Now, it's surrounded by other plants. Maybe we should move it and give it a chance.
Now that you mention it, I think the "Doctor" appeared where my Queen Elizabeth was growing.
Her personal physician, I assume.
@just bee I think you are correct!
06-23-2025 01:33 PM
@Oznell One of the reasons I miss living in West Philly. We have backyard alley ways where everbody had rose bushes w/roses blooming into the alley so you can smell them as you walk by. If you're not careful, your face can get all cut up from the thorns if you're running through an alleyway. ![]()
"Never argue with a fool. Onlookers may not be able to tell the difference."
06-23-2025 01:39 PM - edited 06-23-2025 09:49 PM
I am very well acquainted with the succession of rootstock roses after difficult winters.
I've lost so many lovely, fragrant hybrids and such. My rootstocks all come up as Blaze. A simiilar small, but abundantly flowering and aggressively growing rose.
The best cold weather roses I have planted are the Canadian Explorer roses.
Tney are extremely tolerant to cold and snow and are a delight. I have a 30 year old William Baffin duo of roses over an archway that were stunning in their heyday, although they have lost a lot of vigor and probably need to be replaced.
I have also had great success with the Henry Cabot and Alexander MacKenzie varieties.
My greatest challenge with roses, however, is deer. My rootstock Blaze is the only rose left in the front yard because the deer that come by every other day eat everything else. The backyard has a fence, but it does not prevent the athletic deer from jumping over and having a pleasant afternoon hiding out and snacking on my lovely roses, Grrrrr.
06-23-2025 07:20 PM
LOL, about Dr Huey. I grew around 500 roses at one time and I learned after a couple years to quit buying grafted roses because eventually, in cold weather, they are going to become Dr. Huey. My fortuniana roses became same as the parents, so I only bought own-root roses after that. Sure, they get a slower start but they are forever.
06-23-2025 07:53 PM
These are great rose stories!
@We rescue cats, it was the Saratoga that was graf
Stunning bi-color "Scentimental" rose, @just bee -- thanks for posting that picture! Judging from the name, must have a wonderful fragrance too-- that's what I miss from our Saratoga...
@SactoSue , good to know, that "Blaze" is another hardy root stock that more delicate roses can piggy-back on. Love you experts sharing your secrets. I'm sure most serious growers find the original root stocks boring and pesky, but I'm just happy to have *something* that will reliably come back, year after year, ha. Great to hear about the cold-weather survivors, neat!
@Nonametoday , with your rose-whisperer talents, it's easy to see you have no need of any hardy root stock back-up. 500 different roses, wow what a garden! Such gardens are truly Edenic...
06-24-2025 06:51 PM
My parents' house had peonies along the side that were put in a vase on the dining room table. I was told the ants were needed by the flowers. My family isn't ant phobic, no harm in a few ants.
06-28-2025 04:25 PM
@Oznell "Dr. Huey is a climbing rose. It is a vigorous, rambling, climbing rose that is often used as a rootstock for grafting other rose varieties. While it can be grown as a climber, it is also known for its tendency to sucker and potentially take over other grafted roses if not properly managed."
06-30-2025 03:15 PM
@OznellYUP. My one and only dabble into "Boughten" roses was Decades ago, one called Butterscotch. A lovely tan color that was set off nicely by the rich brown color of the house next door.
Wouldn't you know it 2 years later they resided the house to Tan!![]()
Anyway a few years after that we had a terribly freezing cold winter and Butterscotch was no more.
Me, being the sensitive soul that I am couldn't pull the bush up because, come Spring, there were some green shoots coming out from the base of the plant. I wasn't sad when the flowers were red with a yellow middle. I could See it against the neighbours house again! So Yeah, I can Vouch for it being a hardy rootstock!
The other rose on the property is a mounding, rambling, monster of clusters of pink pompoms. I think it's called "7 Sisters." Can't get rid of the thing. I suppose it has a right to stay since it's been here for at least 75 years!
A replanted runner has grown big enough to keep the kids away from the fence with the steep drop into the next yard.
06-30-2025 07:18 PM
Wow, @candys mine , with a tantalizing name like "Butterscotch", I had to look that rose up:
Gorgeous, I love it-- no wonder you were disappointed. I bet they come in a subtle range of equally yummy tawny colors.
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