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Re: Victoria Secret now includes models larger than a size 2......

Sorry but the model would look much better in a one - piece suit.  I don't care what size you are...if your belly is hanging out that does not look good!!

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@Citrine1 wrote:

@september @suzyQ3  Well then, my bad.  It sure looks like underwear to me.  When I saw the band on the shoulders that has the logo, I thought for sure it was underwear.  My apologies.


No apology necessary at all, @Citrine1 :-)


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@Lali1 wrote:

I love it and think she's beautiful! Most women are not the size of the normal VS models. As far as promoting an unhealthy lifestyle the same could be said for women who are 6 feet tall and weigh 100 pounds. They're not promoting anything but swimsuits and beautiful women. I see the beauty in her and many women who are much larger than me but I pick myself apart. Showing women like this helps others to feel more comfortable in their own skin. The swimsuit is fine. She's got a belly so do many men and women these days. 


You make a valid point, @Lali1 And by the way, you are not alone in picking yourself apart. Too many women of all sizes do just that.


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Re: Victoria Secret now includes models larger than a size 2......


@NYCLatinaMe wrote:

@ECBG wrote:

@NYCLatinaMe wrote:

@ECBG wrote:

@NYCLatinaMe 

 

Insurance companies make their policies from the side of health.  

The more overweight a person is, the more medical issues, like hypertension, leg problems, diabeties, and of course stress on the heart.

 

They look at the health of individuals who have died and have drawn up conclusions concerning weight, height, and body.


 

@ECBG Insurance companies are not in the side of health.  They are driven by a desire to keep as much money as possible to pay themselves and to pay as few claims as possible.

 

I am not sure that you are correct regarding your generalizations about overweight people, though that is true of some people, particularly the elderly and men.

 

I also believe you have a misundertanding of how health care insurance companies operate.  The laws have changed a lot over the years, and there are protections for people with pre-existing conditions.


@NYCLatinaMe 

 

I understand what you are saying.  Insurances use the guides to calculate premiums.  The more past the height-weight profile, the more they can charge for a premium, and on the average those people use more medicines and go in the hospital, on the average more.

My father was an insurance broker.


 

@ECBG your information is outdated:

 

From a government website https://www.hhs.gov/healthcare/about-the-aca/pre-existing-conditions/index.html

 

Pre-Existing Conditions

Under current law, health insurance companies can’t refuse to cover you or charge you more just because you have a “pre-existing condition” — that is, a health problem you had before the date that new health coverage starts.

These rules went into effect for plan years beginning on or after January 1, 2014.


 

While these protections were greatly expanded (pre-existing conditions) by the PPACA (aka Obamacare), the idea of putting restraints on the health insurance industry being able to deny coverage was first introduced by HIPAA (1st iteration) in 1996. Clinton signed this into law to protect those that changed jobs for any reason to acquire health insurance with a new company without exclusions of pre-existing conditions.

 

Most people think of HIPAA being a law protecting privacy, however the reason it was passed is easily understood when the actual name is used: Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act.  

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@RollTide2008 wrote:
It’s not a matter of being PC. It’s a matter of whose money is green.

Those of you saying this promotes an unhealthy lifestyle, exactly how does it do that? Do you really think someone sees an average sized woman in an ad and thinks “thank goodness, I can finally let myself go?”

 




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Re: Victoria Secret now includes models larger than a size 2......

@ECBGThe medical community isn't in favor of extremes in either directions. 

 

While I think about it, who is to say a woman can't have something like this, while they are on a more healthy journey?  They shouldn't have nice things or things they like in the mean time? 

 

Yes, obesity is here in the USA and the average size of a woman has gone up tremendously over the years.  Last time, I checked it was average of size 14.  Not sure what is now.  It's not trending down, though.





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@Trinity11 wrote:

@Nonametoday wrote:

There are men who think overweight women are much sexier than thin women.  There are men, in some corners of the world, who think that very thin women appeal to men because they are lithe and thin like gay men.  There was a time when women like Mona Lisa were very attractive to men.  I am not making this up.  I have actually done polling on this when in graduate school during the height of the "anything above a 2 is fat" at VS.


"Lithe and thin like gay men?" What on earth does that mean @Nonametoday ???


@Trinity11  I didn't know all gay men were thin!  SMH.





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@suzyQ3 wrote:

@Lali1 wrote:

I love it and think she's beautiful! Most women are not the size of the normal VS models. As far as promoting an unhealthy lifestyle the same could be said for women who are 6 feet tall and weigh 100 pounds. They're not promoting anything but swimsuits and beautiful women. I see the beauty in her and many women who are much larger than me but I pick myself apart. Showing women like this helps others to feel more comfortable in their own skin. The swimsuit is fine. She's got a belly so do many men and women these days. 


You make a valid point, @Lali1 And by the way, you are not alone in picking yourself apart. Too many women of all sizes do just that.


I belive if young women saw more imperfect models they might be kinder to themselves. Hating yourself can be devastatingly unhealthy. 

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@gertrudecloset wrote:

@Trinity11 wrote:

@Nonametoday wrote:

There are men who think overweight women are much sexier than thin women.  There are men, in some corners of the world, who think that very thin women appeal to men because they are lithe and thin like gay men.  There was a time when women like Mona Lisa were very attractive to men.  I am not making this up.  I have actually done polling on this when in graduate school during the height of the "anything above a 2 is fat" at VS.


"Lithe and thin like gay men?" What on earth does that mean @Nonametoday ???


@Trinity11  I didn't know all gay men were thin!  SMH.


News to me, too @gertrudecloset . Sigh.

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Re: Victoria Secret now includes models larger than a size 2......

We have been subject to the enormous bellies of men on the beach forever. We dont look twice. We accept that huge bulbous guts, flabby tatooed arms and sagging mannaries are what some men look like. Dont get me started on butt cracks. We should get used to women being able to look like themselves too.
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