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@Isobel Archer wrote:

@Carmie wrote:

@Pink123 wrote:

High school graduates by in large today (not all so don't attack) are not taught to read and write.  A college degree might help...a bit. 

 

Nor are they taught history.  If you push a globe of the world they cannot pinpoint the country I put my finger too and ask.  They are like "huh????"


I seriously doubt they teach reading and writing in college.  These skills should be taught at the elementary level. By high school, you should be proficient in these skills.

 

Just this morning I read an article that used the spelling "see" in place of "sea."

 

I would think that if you have a job writing articles for a living, you would know better, but I suppose not.

 

When I went to school, it a word was spelled incorrectly, the paper was returned and I was made to correct it.  I carried a small paperback book that had English words listed with the correct spelling in it....not a dictionary.

 

I noticed today,speeling is not a big issue in school.  I suppose everyone could use spell check, but even then some skill is needed to know which spelling to use for words like Capital and Capitol, you're and your and the like.  They are spelled correctly, but have different meanings.

 

 


Proofing is also a lost art apparently.


@Isobel Archer 

Dictation into a machine is typing this and when they spellcheck it is not catching those type errors.  Sea is correct.  See is correct.  But which goes where?  That machine does not know that and this is what we are going to have with more robots and AI.

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@Squirrels Are Trash wrote:

@manny2 wrote:

If I can understand what the OP means. I’m good. I have made many spelling errors, and I have a college education.  It just happens when rushed. No big deal.

 

As for pronunciation. Different parts of the country have distinct dialects, so pronunciation is not that big of a deal either.


Thank you. Agreed.


@Squirrels Are Trash  @manny2 

 

When I lived in California I lived on Bunea Vista and I moved to the south and lived on a street by the same name.  Totally different pronunciations.  Getting back to that, however, I think people should learn to enunciate better.  My husband's doctor asked me if I was an English teacher to which I responded "no, but I was a thespian major and we had to learn English and I can teach it as ESL but not in a 'real school'."

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@pateacher wrote:

I chuckled over this thread. I am a retired English teacher who has noticed that many posters who stress correct spelling are unaware that their own posts contain numerous grammatical and usage errors. 

I appreciate the need for correct spelling; however, spelling is not the only requisite of good writing.

 Now I am off to duck and cover.


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duck-and-cover.

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@Nonametoday   That's how I was taught in elementary school and that's how I explain it to others.

 

I often hear very supposedly educated people getting this wrong too.

 

Me and her went to the store or Her and I went to the store.

 

She, her, him and he...what a mess!  Way beyond the pronoun problem.

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Do people really care about this? If you can understand what the intention is then move on. As you can see, we all make a lot of errors. No big deal!

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Me, myself, and I.  I see and hear it incorrectly (to my knowledge) that I'm starting to doubt myself!    My grown children say "me and so-and-so are going to ..." allll the time.  I have given up, but I cringe inwardly!  😂

 

 

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@Nonametoday wrote:

@Squirrels Are Trash wrote:

@manny2 wrote:

If I can understand what the OP means. I’m good. I have made many spelling errors, and I have a college education.  It just happens when rushed. No big deal.

 

As for pronunciation. Different parts of the country have distinct dialects, so pronunciation is not that big of a deal either.


Thank you. Agreed.


@Squirrels Are Trash  @manny2 

 

When I lived in California I lived on Bunea Vista and I moved to the south and lived on a street by the same name.  Totally different pronunciations.  Getting back to that, however, I think people should learn to enunciate better.  My husband's doctor asked me if I was an English teacher to which I responded "no, but I was a thespian major and we had to learn English and I can teach it as ESL but not in a 'real school'."




I am in the South Bay. The pronunciation of  "Sepulveda" is how we tell where you are from. 
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@Group 5 minus 1 wrote:

Isn't it "by and large"?


Yes, indeed, it is.  

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@manny2 wrote:

Do people really care about this? If you can understand what the intention is then move on. As you can see, we all make a lot of errors. No big deal!


Yes, people care. Yes, it is a big deal. 

“…nevertheless, she persisted.”