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@Carmie wrote:

@Pink123 wrote:

High school graduates by in large today (not all so don't attack) are not taught to read and write.  A college degree might help...a bit. 

 

Nor are they taught history.  If you push a globe of the world they cannot pinpoint the country I put my finger too and ask.  They are like "huh????"


I seriously doubt they teach reading and writing in college.  These skills should be taught at the elementary level. By high school, you should be proficient in these skills.

 

Just this morning I read an article that used the spelling "see" in place of "sea."

 

I would think that if you have a job writing articles for a living, you would know better, but I suppose not.

 

When I went to school, it a word was spelled incorrectly, the paper was returned and I was made to correct it.  I carried a small paperback book that had English words listed with the correct spelling in it....not a dictionary.

 

I noticed today,speeling is not a big issue in school.  I suppose everyone could use spell check, but even then some skill is needed to know which spelling to use for words like Capital and Capitol, you're and your and the like.  They are spelled correctly, but have different meanings.

 

 


Proofing is also a lost art apparently.

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@Isobel Archer wrote:

@Carmie wrote:

@Pink123 wrote:

High school graduates by in large today (not all so don't attack) are not taught to read and write.  A college degree might help...a bit. 

 

Nor are they taught history.  If you push a globe of the world they cannot pinpoint the country I put my finger too and ask.  They are like "huh????"


I seriously doubt they teach reading and writing in college.  These skills should be taught at the elementary level. By high school, you should be proficient in these skills.

 

Just this morning I read an article that used the spelling "see" in place of "sea."

 

I would think that if you have a job writing articles for a living, you would know better, but I suppose not.

 

When I went to school, it a word was spelled incorrectly, the paper was returned and I was made to correct it.  I carried a small paperback book that had English words listed with the correct spelling in it....not a dictionary.

 

I noticed today,speeling is not a big issue in school.  I suppose everyone could use spell check, but even then some skill is needed to know which spelling to use for words like Capital and Capitol, you're and your and the like.  They are spelled correctly, but have different meanings.

 

 


Proofing is also a lost art apparently.

 

 

See how easy it is @Isobel Archer ? We all do it, so why call people out on it.  


 

 

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@Isobel Archer wrote:

@Carmie wrote:

@Pink123 wrote:

High school graduates by in large today (not all so don't attack) are not taught to read and write.  A college degree might help...a bit. 

 

Nor are they taught history.  If you push a globe of the world they cannot pinpoint the country I put my finger too and ask.  They are like "huh????"


I seriously doubt they teach reading and writing in college.  These skills should be taught at the elementary level. By high school, you should be proficient in these skills.

 

Just this morning I read an article that used the spelling "see" in place of "sea."

 

I would think that if you have a job writing articles for a living, you would know better, but I suppose not.

 

When I went to school, it a word was spelled incorrectly, the paper was returned and I was made to correct it.  I carried a small paperback book that had English words listed with the correct spelling in it....not a dictionary.

 

I noticed today,speeling is not a big issue in school.  I suppose everyone could use spell check, but even then some skill is needed to know which spelling to use for words like Capital and Capitol, you're and your and the like.  They are spelled correctly, but have different meanings.

 

 


Proofing is also a lost art apparently.


Yep, you're right.  I am not 100% perfect especially at 5:30 in the morning having been up all night with a headache.

 

I don't get paid to write, so occasionally some typo slips through.

 

There is a big difference between a typo and a spelling error.  But, you already know that.

 

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@manny2 wrote:

If I can understand what the OP means. I’m good. I have made many spelling errors, and I have a college education.  It just happens when rushed. No big deal.

 

As for pronunciation. Different parts of the country have distinct dialects, so pronunciation is not that big of a deal either.


Thank you. Agreed.

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Yes I already said we are all prone to typos. I was just commenting on the need to judge when we may not even be sure which it actually is - e.g capitol/capital - easy to mistype.
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I chuckled over this thread. I am a retired English teacher who has noticed that many posters who stress correct spelling are unaware that their own posts contain numerous grammatical and usage errors. 

I appreciate the need for correct spelling; however, spelling is not the only requisite of good writing.

 Now I am off to duck and cover.

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Perhaps Kim Gravels accent is having a direct influence lol.

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And the s is silent in Illinois. 

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@Carmie wrote:

@Pink123 wrote:

High school graduates by in large today (not all so don't attack) are not taught to read and write.  A college degree might help...a bit. 

 

Nor are they taught history.  If you push a globe of the world they cannot pinpoint the country I put my finger too and ask.  They are like "huh????"


I seriously doubt they teach reading and writing in college.  These skills should be taught at the elementary level. By high school, you should be proficient in these skills.

 

Just this morning I read an article that used the spelling "see" in place of "sea."

 

I would think that if you have a job writing articles for a living, you would know better, but I suppose not.

 

When I went to school, it a word was spelled incorrectly, the paper was returned and I was made to correct it.  I carried a small paperback book that had English words listed with the correct spelling in it....not a dictionary.

 

I noticed today,speeling is not a big issue in school.  I suppose everyone could use spell check, but even then some skill is needed to know which spelling to use for words like Capital and Capitol, you're and your and the like.  They are spelled correctly, but have different meanings.

 

 


@Carmie 

I was teaching English a few years ago to ESL students (college level).  My textbooks were provided by an ivy league school.  I was told not to question them and to teach exactly as it was written because the English (American version) will change considerably as it will be taught the way it is spoken in California and those things you get (can you figure out what it says) in your email, are samples of how it will be spoken because we won't speak it as we learned it in grammar and junior high school or even in high school.  I was teaching subject-verb agreements, subjectives-objectives and how to search dictionary and thesaurus for definitions, antonyms and synonyms. No more diagramming or conjugation, etc.  

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@Carmie wrote:

@Pink123 wrote:

High school graduates by in large today (not all so don't attack) are not taught to read and write.  A college degree might help...a bit. 

 

Nor are they taught history.  If you push a globe of the world they cannot pinpoint the country I put my finger too and ask.  They are like "huh????"


I seriously doubt they teach reading and writing in college.  These skills should be taught at the elementary level. By high school, you should be proficient in these skills.

 

Just this morning I read an article that used the spelling "see" in place of "sea."

 

I would think that if you have a job writing articles for a living, you would know better, but I suppose not.

 

When I went to school, it a word was spelled incorrectly, the paper was returned and I was made to correct it.  I carried a small paperback book that had English words listed with the correct spelling in it....not a dictionary.

 

I noticed today,speeling is not a big issue in school.  I suppose everyone could use spell check, but even then some skill is needed to know which spelling to use for words like Capital and Capitol, you're and your and the like.  They are spelled correctly, but have different meanings.

 

 


@Carmie 

Autocorrect and spellcheck are a crapshoot.  

 

I see many broadcast journalists who are taught English in college and have to have pretty good ACT/SAT scores to get into that program, using subjectives where objectives should be used, i.e., She gave it to her and I.  Wrong.  My teaching to students was "remove the her and say it with the other person (yourself) and see how it sounds to say "she gave it to I."  They got it.  It is so easy to do this.