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02-28-2014 11:29 PM
OMG! It's worse than I thought! Aborted? (sob)
02-28-2014 11:36 PM
People don't care that animals are treated horribly so humans can eat meat and wear leather/suede, etc. It's disgusting. Every time I see one of the hosts cuddling a big leather bag or modeling those lovely shoes, I see a cow screaming. People don't know and don't want to know.
02-28-2014 11:40 PM
On 2/28/2014 bunsnpigs said:People don't care that animals are treated horribly so humans can eat meat and wear leather/suede, etc. It's disgusting. Every time I see one of the hosts cuddling a big leather bag or modeling those lovely shoes, I see a cow screaming. People don't know and don't want to know.
As a past member of PETA and mother of 3 furbabies it breaks my heart to know that animals are "aborted" for the sake of a soft handbag. It sickens me! Will it ever change?
02-28-2014 11:43 PM
02-28-2014 11:44 PM
Here is a far more accurate definition:
There were a lot of questions regarding ponyhair, haircalf or in industry terms, hair-on leather. What the heck is it? Is it pony? Is it cow? Well, it is most commonly cow, although it can be done with buffalo or any other animal for that matter (shearling is the sheep version of this) but it is usually not actual pony. Basically, it is the hair side of the animal. It is considered a “pelt”, same as fur. The leather that we are most familiar with is actually the underside, the non-hair side of the skin. Haircalf (the most common term but in fashion pony hair is used to make it sound sexier) is more expensive than the average leather but the cost is in the finish of the hair, since it needs to be treated (chrome tanned is a process that gives the hair the super shiny sheen), most of the time it is cut down short (this is necessary for any use other than a rug, as in, in a cowboy’s house), and it is dyed. If you’ve ever been to a farm, I don’t need to tell you what the natural colors are – solid black, black and white, brown and white or tricolors of black, brown and white. It is dyed white first and any color or pattern can then be put on it, even metallic. As with leather, prices vary widely depending on how many of these treatments it has had. In general, the haircalf version is also more expensive than the leather counterpart because it is harder to work with during manufacturing. The care for haircalf is pretty simple. Don’t get gum or oil on it and you can pretty much clean it nicely with a dry cloth. If you get something on it, use a slightly damp cloth but then dry it with a dry cloth immediately after. Always go with the grain of the hair! It can also be sprayed with the same silicone spray for suede but whatever you do, stay away from Scotch Guard, even their warning says not to use it on anything other than fabric. I guess the question you all want answered is now obvious. No, it is not considered exotic since it is just plain ole’ cow. But if you are looking for an alternative to humdrum leather, haircalf is definitely more unique and bold."
02-28-2014 11:45 PM
02-28-2014 11:52 PM
03-01-2014 12:00 AM
This issue has come up before.
I understand people choosing not to carry leather, that's their choice. Being vegetarian or vegan is a choice.
One choice out of many we all make. It doesn't make anyone better or worse than the person who feels differently and chooses differently.
I do think though, trying to put out the most accurate information, is a good thing.
03-01-2014 12:02 AM
It doesn't matter if it's an aborted calf, a baby or an adult animal....either way it's absolutely disgusting. I'm glad that despite it being limited quantities, the bag didn't sell out in seconds.
03-01-2014 12:03 AM
On 2/28/2014 kansasprairie said: Very sad what women will wear for their own vanity. Lisa R is a sad pathetic animal abuser as well, another vain women who cares nothing for animals as long as her junky GILI sells. She never looks right, she always looks like she us trying very hard to look chic but with her cleavage hanging out and her orange skin she never does.
ITA - How are these poor calfs and lambs and less precious than anyone's puppie or kitty? Junky GILI - you got it! And you are right - she somehow never looks right - it takes a village and it's still all wrong. Some expert!
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