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I hope someone here will find these videos interesting.  These are a couple of tech guys I subscribe to on YT talking about the upcoming Apple Vision Pro.  And no, at $4000 I won't be getting one.  I'd love to have what this product finally ends up looking like and for a lot less but I'm sure it will still be out of my budget.  But, it's fun to see what the future looks like for these kinds of devices.

 

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They need to solve the weight and battery life issues (to say nothing of the cost) before the Apple Vision Pro can become more mainstream. YouTube's iJustine, as big an Apple fanatic as there is, can only wear the headset for half an hour to 45 minutes at a time before the weight becomes too much for her. The battery life is two hours to a bit longer. Many movies now are longer than the battery will last, even if you can tolerate the weight.

 

Both the battery life and weight issues can be solved by moving the processing of data off the headset completely and using either a compatible iPhone or cloud resource using a 5G connection. Modern iPhones use a similar processor to the Vision Pro, so a direct cable connection (or wifi?) to the phone to let it do the processing would reduce much of the weight of the Vision Pro and with the phone doing the heavy lifting, you'd only need battery power for the headset displays and cameras. 

 

Nearly everyone buying and using the Vision Pro will have the latest and greatest iPhone anyway, and the iPhone will just be sitting idle while you're using the Vision Pro, so move the processing to the phone to reduce the weight of the headset and improve battery performance of the Vision Pro. It would also reduce the cost considerably since you're already buying the CPU and memory in the phone. You'd need to have the phone and Vision Pro in close proximity, but that's not generally an issue. 

 

Maybe the current generation of iPhone CPUs can't match the performance of the M2 chip in the headset, but they should be pretty close. That's more likely going to be the future of the Vision Pro. It'll become an accessory to use coupled with an iPhone. Doing so solves most of the issues people have with the Vision Pro. It reduces the weight, cost, and improves the battery life of the VIsion Pro. 

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@monicakm Thanks for the information.  I dont think I am going to get those but I think the technology is cool.  At least they are big so we wont have to ask Alexa to find them! lol!!

 

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@monicakm  I'm fascinated by this.  Good to know it's quite heavy (seems to be typical of higher end iphones also) and about the limited battery life. 

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This morning I was at one of the local Apple Stores & got a chance to play w/their VR gadgit.  It's like being on "Star Trek The Enterprise."  The weight & the battery life are a turn off for me.  The battery weight would give me a stiff neck & possible migraine attack.  I would need to be lying down on my back while playing around in VR.

 

I called my oldest grandson who has all the latest Apple gadgits (Apple fan boy).  I asked if he was thinking about getting Apple's VR gadgit.  He said, "Nana, now you always tell me never get Apple's FIRST generation ANYTHING.  Always wait for 2nd perferbaly 3rd generation."  I was like oh you do listen. Smiley Tongue

 

Me personally, I am dissapointed in Apple for showcasing this Vision Pro so early in the game loaded w/bugs & at $4k to boot!  Apple should be paying $$$$$ to all those who purchase.   It's a "beta" product that Apple has released to the public to test.  Needs a lot more work. 

 

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@Mz iMac @Good advice for your grandson!

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Yeah, it's going to get refined over time. Pretty much everyone has multiple CPUs all around them. If you could bundle all of those together so they worked cooperatively you'd have more than enough processing power to do everything the VIsion Pro does and more.

 

By me right now are my desktop computer, my Chromebook, my smartphone, an Amazon Echo, a smart TV, a few Fire TV devices, two Kindles, an eight-inch Fire tablet, a ten-inch Fire tablet, and a couple of Rokus. Only my desktop CPU is currently active as that's what I'm using right now. The rest of that computing power is just sitting there twiddling its electronic thumbs waiting for me to call on it. And my printer and some other stuff (air conditioner, etc.) likely have a decent amount of unused computing power also.

 

If you could develop an operating system that tapped into any unused processor nearby and shared the workload, the computing power would be amazing.

 

I think that's where the future of the VisionPro lies. Most users will have an iPhone or other smartphone. Many will be dragging around a laptop or tablet with them. Instead of putting all of the processing power needed into the headset, take advantage of the unused CPUs in the immediate area.

 

Nearly all of my gadgets and things with a CPU communicate via Bluetooth or wifi, so why not create an operating system that taps into the unused computing power that's just sitting there doing nothing much of the time for processor-heavy tasks like those done in the Vision Pro?

 

We've all paid for CPU's that just sit idle most of the time. Why not put them all to work on big tasks? Or as an alternative, why not let us buy just one big, powerful CPU base unit that everything else taps into?

 

The failure of the Vision Pro is that it's trying to do too much on your head. That makes it weightier than it needs to be and imposes limits on it in terms of battery life. Pretty much every user of the Vision Pro will be carrying around more than enough computing power to replace that built into the Vision Pro. They just can't use it in that way now. A revamped OS that taps into the potential of nearby devices for heavy tasks would solve nearly all of the Vision Pro issues and lower the cost dramatically.

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As both super tech gurus mentioned, this is not the version to buy.  Over the months/ years it will be greatly refined and like all things tech, the price will come down.

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@monicakm 

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On the local news this date..........

Do not wear your Apple Vision Pro headset while driving, company says

LOS ANGELES - Following the release of Apple Vision Pro, many consumers have been spotted testing out the device in any way they can. 

Some of the more alarming examples have been people wearing the spacial computing headset while driving. 

 

Two videos have already gone viral of people wearing and using the new headset while driving the new Tesla Cybertruck. 

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In both videos, the drivers can be seen controlling their headsets with their hands lifted off the wheel. 

The other video shows a man doing the same thing before police vehicles can be seen with their lights on apparently looking to pull him over. 

Dante Lentini, a 21-year-old NYU computer science student who is based in Palo Alto, California, posted the video. 

Lentini told Storyful he was not pulled over by police, as is suggested in the video.

Lentini said he put the headset on for five to 10 second increments and that he had it on "for no more than 30 to 40 seconds while driving" in total. "Just did it for the video, also had it on transparency mode so it just showed the road in front of me," Lentini said.

 

Don't drink, drive and wear Apple Vision Pro

Apple has warned users against using the headset while driving, and Tesla’s assisted driving features require drivers to keep their hands on the wheel at all times, Gizmodo reported.

The headset user guide also explicetly says users should avoid using "it while operating a moving vehicle, or use it while intoxicated or otherwise impaired."

Other new Apple Vision Pro users have already been spotted out in public spaces like gyms, public transit and coffee shops.

 

One YouTube creator known as Canoopsy posted a video on Feb. 4, showing him wearing his device for 24 hours. 

The video shows Canoopsy doing all sorts of activities while wearing the headset while controlling it with his hands in public. 

 
Baby steps

According to Apple, users should gradually get used to wearing their headset over time. 

"Start using Apple Vision Pro gradually to get adjusted, and take regular breaks, even if you think you don’t need them. For example, start with just a 20 or 30-minute session, and adjust based on your comfort level."

 

SOURCE:  fox29.com/news/do-not-wear-your-apple-vision-pro-headset-while-driving-company-says

 

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I recognize that first picture as the property that Marquez Brownlee uses for testing Teslas and flying electronics.  So whoever that is behind the wheel isn't actually on the road.