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On 11/3/2014 game-on said:

I am reading the book "Portrait of a Monster" .... I learned about it from Croemer who said she was reading it on another thread about Joran a few months ago. He is despicable. He is also a pathological liar. I believe his father took secrets about Natalie to his grave.

I agree. Joran may live for a long, long time - and in those years I don't believe he will ever speak about Natalie and what happened on the fateful night. To expect him to confess is unrealistic. People like Joran think of nothing but themselves; he's the victim in his twisted world.

Whether the stabbing story is true or not, it's not something that wouldn't happen in any jail. Peru may have a worse prison system but Joran would not be safe anywhere, imo.

As far as his wife, we've seen that time and time again; woman who "love" men who murder; marry them and have children with them.

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He is an amoral piece of garbage. Still, I think the 2 brothers had more to do with Natalee H's death than Joran. He and his father were part of the cover-up.

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Oh no! Hopefully he didn't die too soon after this stabbing. Needs to feel some pain. Now this is just the opinion of an evil old man.

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Too bad.........so sad...........

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I just saw on tv that his wife claims she has a bloody sweatshirt as proof he'd been stabbed, but the police say she's a liar.

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On 11/3/2014 Jig Saw said:

He also got married.


Wow, I didn't know that. Maybe she thinks she can then immigrate to another country with his family because she married him.

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This is a claim by his pregnant prisoner groupie wife. The prison itself denies it and says there is not one shred of proof. Who to believe?

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On 11/3/2014 Love Roses said:
On 11/3/2014 Jig Saw said:

He also got married.


Wow, I didn't know that. Maybe she thinks she can then immigrate to another country with his family because she married him.

I doubt it. I believe Joran's family, especially his mom, have nothing to do with him anymore. Could be wrong, though.

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Did we find out if this is actually true? Sounds like his wife is crazy also, guess that is no surprise. Too bad they brought an innocent child into this den of evil.

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The news report I heard said he stabbed himself then reported that inmates stabbed him.