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the California fireman has been found...........may he rest in peace............................raven

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ooooooooh
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Sad.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/27/mike-herdman-dead_n_5538827.html

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I'm sorry to hear this. Had hoped for a miracle.(sometimes they happen)

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know what you mean september.............I was so hopeful (against the odds {#emotions_dlg.crying}) that this wouldn't have this ending..........he has little kids, just so so sad..........................raven

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So so sad, may God bless him.

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I posted for EMT on the other thread.

This stinks. This man was experienced in backwoods country hikes. He had hiked some 1,200ft UP a hillside before falling to his death?

And what firefighter goes out barefoot? I've never known one to be without his boots.

Just sayin'.

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On 6/27/2014 Snowpuppy said:

I posted for EMT on the other thread.

This stinks. This man was experienced in backwoods country hikes. He had hiked some 1,200ft UP a hillside before falling to his death?

And what firefighter goes out barefoot? I've never known one to be without his boots.

Just sayin'.

they found his body in a rugged cliff area.........if he was out at night looking for that dog, he may have not seen he was at the cliff's end, and just walked off...........this is just so darn sad..............................raven

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Snowpuppy, Firefighters usually don't think to take their boots EVERY where..I never saw Seans in 10 yrs unless I went to visit him at his firehouse...

Here was my response on that thread...

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I have been reading multiple stories and I think any little misstep could have caused a fall.. Not even sure if gym shoes would matter if he lost balance and hit his head...(They would help with traction but not necessarily balance if he was racing to help his dog)

I could be wrong but I am not going to jump to the assumption that his friend (also a FF) did something nefarious...

ETA- I am not sure what being a firefighter has to do with "knowing better"... Most risk their lives even when they are SUPPOSED to wait sometimes ...

I have read a LOT of stories that don't make sense..This isn't one of them... Simple human error,IMHO...

IF his friend had ANYTHING to do with it, they may have been goofing off, an accident happened and he panicked..but even that is a stretch to me..

Personally, if I was in fear of losing one of my animals, I don't even know if I would have appropriate clothing on..My adrenaline would kick in and I wouldn't even waste a minute trying to put shoes on...

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They were seperated I read. What about life insurance policies? I am looking at all angels.

Also, I read maybe he didn't fall down the cliff on the first night.