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@georgia1923, best advice is to talk to your Doctor or your pharmacist. 

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No, they are not the same thing.  2 totally different medicines that work in totally different ways.   Same difference as your body needs water, but it doesn't need alcohol.  One can become addicted to alcohol, but physical addiction to water is not a concern.  Water and alcohol are 2 totally different substances. 


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I know far too many people who would rather be in pain or discomfort than take *any* prescription pill for *anything, ever.* While I applaud the general overall determination not to become "pill-dependent", I also feel that people are sometimes suffering or torturing themselves needlessly just so they can feel good about not being a "druggie." Some even refuse medications their doctors recommend as truly necessary, not so much an option - again, mostly because they like being able to say they Take No Pills. Cutting off nose to spite face.

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@sweetee2 wrote:

There has been many times I have forgotten to take my thyroid medication  with no side effects.  Pain medication is a totally different  ball of wax as they say. It would be both physical and mental  side effects, even to the point of death. You don't want to try this without medical  help.


@sweetee2,Some meds have a "ghost" or "shadow" effect.  You probably didn't notice the difference when you forgot your meds. To just stop thyroid medication is very dangerous to your body.  Your thyroid functions within the body to keep you well.  All cells depend on the thyroid in order to function.  Stopping it would, over time, create a snowball effect that probably couldn't completely corrected.

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@spent2much wrote:

I've been on pain medication for 9 or 10 years due to a lower back problem.  There is a difference between addiction and physical dependence (to control pain).  They don't make me "high."  They just take the edge off my pain and I am so thankful I finally found a pain doctor who treats me.


@spent2much  Has hit it on the head. Physical dependence is not addiction. Pretty much any medication that you take on a regular basis for a length of time, will cause withdrawal symptoms if stopped suddenly. That applies to antidepressants, blood pressure meds, anti-anxiety meds, even hormones, etc. Of course if you abruptly stop thyroid medication, your body will be thrown into a talespin. Most all medications should be tapered off if possible. Of course, some are more likely to cause very dangerous even life threatening reactions. That's why all prescription meds tell you not to stop without consulting your doctor. 

 

Just because someone takes pain pain meds every day, that doesn't mean they are addicted to them. They need them to relieve pain to function. Yes, their bodies are accustomed to them, and abruptly stopping would cause withdrawal. 

 

Addiction happens when the person takes more than is prescribed, not to relieve the pain, but because they like the feeling they feel when taking them. (Short version). Then as the addiction takes over they find it harder and harder to control. They often will exhibit behaviors such as lying, stealing, etc., to obtain more. And some people are more prone to addiction or addictive behaviors. 

 

There also is tolerance. Some people, actually many, require more and more, or higher doses to maintain pain relief. That is because after awhile in some people, they just don't work as well as when they first started taking them. That is not addiction either. That's why you have to be honest with your doctor about the fact that it isn't working like it once did. Often pain doctors will switch medications back and forth to try to eliminate that happening. Just like some people have to increase their insulin or BP meds as the years go by. 

 

The unfortunate problem with the pill mills and addiction has once again cast a negative light on those that take and need opiate pain meds. And the media and some law enforcement has made it seem like anyone taking painkillers everyday is an addict, or will become an addict.  Just not true. 

 

That said, some medications by nature of their mood altering effects, and more intense withdrawals, tend to be more addicting (pain killers, Xanax, stimulants) that is, the risk is greater that you could become addicted. 

 

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Excellent, @Reba055!

 

I've had little experience with typically addictive substances, but like some people often have the opposite reaction to a drug, i.e. for example Sudafed puts them to sleep, Valium affects them like uppers - I have all my life been someone whose body gets used to, or accommodates, non-addictive medications. If I take antihistamines, I have to trade off between 2-3 different ones as after a week one will stop working and I need one with a slightly different chemical makeup. Same with cold medicines and other things. It's never been the case with controlled substances, have no idea why. Was saying in another thread that with herbal/homeopathic remedies, it might work for 2-3 days and then nada.

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I would ask the Dr but I don't think you're an addict if you take thyroid meds as prescribed.

 

And not everyone who takes pain meds is addicted to them. I have taken pain meds since 2001 when I had spine surgery. I only went up from one kind of pain med to the next in all that time. I can take 4 a day, but I DONT. Most days I take 2.. When I get injections in my spine (every few months) I may need 1 or none a day if the injections help. And when I stop them nothing happens to me, no reaction to not having them.

 

To add- I have been offered stronger meds and refused them because I want to have my wits about me and remain coherent. Some pain meds make you too drowsy. And actually my prescription Ibuprofen helps the most (other than the injections I get), because it rids inflammation but I try not to take IB daily due to possible stomach issues. I also have muscle relaxants which I also limit and only take when I am in severe pain.

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Addiction is a complex subject and a tremendous problem in our Country, particularly, for older adults.  your friend should see an addiction specialist. 

 

Your thyroid medication is a totally different issue.  You are prescribed a medication because your body lacks the chemical needed to maintain a bodily function.  If you stop it, you may go into a crisis....the thyroid affects many vital organs.  

 

Narcotics, opioids etc are not necessary for bodily functions but to control pain.  We can live with pain tho uncomfortable. 

 

 

Dont stop your medication and seek advice advice from your doctor.  You are not an addict

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By going to a pain clinic she is managing her pain, which is a good thing based on her diagnosis, whatever that is, rather than medicating herself with drugs that will get her addicted, then she may have to go black market if her prescribing doctor cuts her off.

 

Since she is under the care of a physician it's pain management, not addiction

 


@Terri1920 wrote:

Somewhere on a thread here, I read something about being addicted to painkillers.  Can someone please explain the difference between addiction to painkillers and addiction to other types of pills?

 

I have a neighbor who is in her mid-fifties.  She goes to a pain clinic run by a reputable anesthesiologist.  Anyway, she is on painkillers.. I don't know if it's oxy or hydro whatever.  She never appears to be loopy, her speech is never slurred but she takes these pills every day.  She has for years.

 

On the other hand, I take thyroid pills.  If I stop taking them, I guess my body will tell me?  I have no idea what would happen since my thyroid was removed years ago, so I have to take the pills.

 

Would I be in the same position as she is?  Am I addicted to my thyroid pills the same way she is addicted to the pills she takes?  I realize she would go into withdrawal if she stoppped taking her pills and if I stopped taking my thyroid pills, wouldn't my body go into some type of withdrawal too?




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Addiction is when you crave something - thyroid meds do not cause that. They are just a medication you need for your body to properly function at it's best. 

An anethsia doctor once explained to a bunch of us nurses this way about narcotic pain meds - when you have pain and take a narcotic pain killer it attaches to pain receptors on the nerves and gets used up that way.If you take that same drug and do not have pain it doesn't get used by the pain receptors so it makes you high. When you see a person who is obviously high from their pain meds they are getting too much.When someone is obviously high but still complaining they are in pain and need more drugs - they are an addict. They are craving the drug not the pain relief.