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[on the bay]

@pitdakota ,

No, our concern was that going from one family to another I could transmit something from one to the other especially my at risk daughter and her 16 month old son. 

Since she needs my help I have to go there inside with a mask so just to be safe, I will only see the other daughter with 2 young children, (one going to preschool again),

outside with masks.

Most everything we have done this past year is to keep my daughter with health issues as safe as possible. They worried about me but I worried about them!

I have gotten both vaccines now and

both families are signed up in multiple places for the vaccine.

My other daughter is a champion at finding every random place for every relative even in different states to get them signed up. She is determined and doesn't give up!

[pitdakota]

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@on the bay wrote:

@pitdakota ,

No, our concern was that going from one family to another I could transmit something from one to the other especially my at risk daughter and her 16 month old son. 

Since she needs my help I have to go there inside with a mask so just to be safe, I will only see the other daughter with 2 young children, (one going to preschool again),

outside with masks.

Most everything we have done this past year is to keep my daughter with health issues as safe as possible. They worried about me but I worried about them!

I have gotten both vaccines now and

both families are signed up in multiple places for the vaccine.

My other daughter is a champion at finding every random place for every relative even in different states to get them signed up. She is determined and doesn't give up!

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Totally understand @on the bay, it is all about protecting that daughter and of course your daughters want to protect you.   

Outside visits with your other daughter and those grandchildren certainly is appropriate.  So yes, masking around both daughters is certainly the way to go. 

[magicmoodz]

@pitdakota 

Once again, thank you for your willingness to share your knowledge and expertise with us. You are truly appreciated!

The concern I have (admittedly I have stepped away from my personal research on Covid because it can drive me to the point of the edge😕) is variants. Is it safe for two VACCINATED (Pfizer or Moderna) people to be in close contact UNMASKED when we don't know the efficacy of our current vaccines against the ever-growing variants?

Truthfully I was a little disappointed with the new CDC guidelines. We are all suffering from Covid fatigue and sometimes when we are given an inch we  might take a mile relaxing the precautions we have lived with for so long.

@pitdakota If you can shed some light, I would love to hear from you.

[Mindy D]

@pitdakota @You are correct. I thought I had taken my post about this down, just after I posted and reread my post. I was surprised to see that my post is still there. I was the person that posted the trial results here for both Pfizer and Moderna. Shame on me and thank you for making the correction. Here's a copy of the Pfizer. I'll be posting the results of real world data on Pfizer's vaccine today. 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwj8toXjjcLtAhVG-6wKHRL0BoQQ...

[pitdakota]

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@magicmoodz wrote:

@pitdakota 

Once again, thank you for your willingness to share your knowledge and expertise with us. You are truly appreciated!

The concern I have (admittedly I have stepped away from my personal research on Covid because it can drive me to the point of the edge😕) is variants. Is it safe for two VACCINATED (Pfizer or Moderna) people to be in close contact UNMASKED when we don't know the efficacy of our current vaccines against the ever-growing variants?

Truthfully I was a little disappointed with the new CDC guidelines. We are all suffering from Covid fatigue and sometimes when we are given an inch we  might take a mile relaxing the precautions we have lived with for so long.

@pitdakota If you can shed some light, I would love to hear from you.  

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@magicmoodz, thank you for your kind words, just glad to be of some help where I can be.   In regard to your concerns about variants, for now the data seems to support fairly good coverage with the variants.  Even if the effectiveness of one vaccine tends to drop somewhat with a particular variant, it appears these vaccines right now are still doing a pretty good job of preventing severe disease with all the variants.

I can pass along how I intend to approach this right now and that is if there is someone I know that is fully vaccinated I would be comfortable being indoors without a mask or worrying about physical distance with them.  But I plan on still avoiding most group contacts outside my family group without using those measures until we are closer to herd immunity and/or have considerably lower community transmission rates. 

Of course, when out in public or around others that are not vaccinated wearing a mask and maintaining physical distance is still necessary.  

They are doing research and specifically following vaccinated individuals and also continuing to research the effectiveness of the various vaccines with the different variants. So they will have more information as we move forward.  

[pitdakota]

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@Mindy D wrote:

@pitdakota @You are correct. I thought I had taken my post about this down, just after I posted and reread my post. I was surprised to see that my post is still there. I was the person that posted the trial results here for both Pfizer and Moderna. Shame on me and thank you for making the correction. Here's a copy of the Pfizer. I'll be posting the results of real world data on Pfizer's vaccine today. 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwj8toXjjcLtAhVG-6wKHRL0BoQQ...

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@Mindy D, no problem and no shame at all.  

Yes, it will be interesting to see as these vaccines are released into the public to see the effectiveness of the vaccines as they are actully deployed out there.  Thanks!

[suzyQ3]

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@pitdakota wrote:

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@magicmoodz wrote:

@pitdakota 

Once again, thank you for your willingness to share your knowledge and expertise with us. You are truly appreciated!

The concern I have (admittedly I have stepped away from my personal research on Covid because it can drive me to the point of the edge😕) is variants. Is it safe for two VACCINATED (Pfizer or Moderna) people to be in close contact UNMASKED when we don't know the efficacy of our current vaccines against the ever-growing variants?

Truthfully I was a little disappointed with the new CDC guidelines. We are all suffering from Covid fatigue and sometimes when we are given an inch we  might take a mile relaxing the precautions we have lived with for so long.

@pitdakota If you can shed some light, I would love to hear from you.  

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@magicmoodz, thank you for your kind words, just glad to be of some help where I can be.   In regard to your concerns about variants, for now the data seems to support fairly good coverage with the variants.  Even if the effectiveness of one vaccine tends to drop somewhat with a particular variant, it appears these vaccines right now are still doing a pretty good job of preventing severe disease with all the variants.

I can pass along how I intend to approach this right now and that is if there is someone I know that is fully vaccinated I would be comfortable being indoors without a mask or worrying about physical distance with them.  But I plan on still avoiding most group contacts outside my family group without using those measures until we are closer to herd immunity and/or have considerably lower community transmission rates. 

Of course, when out in public or around others that are not vaccinated wearing a mask and maintaining physical distance is still necessary.  

They are doing research and specifically following vaccinated individuals and also continuing to research the effectiveness of the various vaccines with the different variants. So they will have more information as we move forward.  

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Is this to protect you or the others? @pitdakota I ask because I believe that you are not at risk. So if it's for the sake of others, I thought that transmission from a possible asymtomatic vaccinated person to an unvaccinated person is more hypothetical.

Also, good news from scientist in Israel regarding the Pfizer vaccine:

Key Points

• Pfizer said its Covid-19 vaccine blocked 94% of asymptomatic infections in an Israeli study — a result CEO Albert Bourla called “extremely important.”
• The study also found the vaccine was at least 97% effective against symptomatic Covid cases, hospitalizations and deaths, the company said.

[pitdakota]

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@suzyQ3 wrote:

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@pitdakota wrote:

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@magicmoodz wrote:

@pitdakota 

Once again, thank you for your willingness to share your knowledge and expertise with us. You are truly appreciated!

The concern I have (admittedly I have stepped away from my personal research on Covid because it can drive me to the point of the edge😕) is variants. Is it safe for two VACCINATED (Pfizer or Moderna) people to be in close contact UNMASKED when we don't know the efficacy of our current vaccines against the ever-growing variants?

Truthfully I was a little disappointed with the new CDC guidelines. We are all suffering from Covid fatigue and sometimes when we are given an inch we  might take a mile relaxing the precautions we have lived with for so long.

@pitdakota If you can shed some light, I would love to hear from you.  

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@magicmoodz, thank you for your kind words, just glad to be of some help where I can be.   In regard to your concerns about variants, for now the data seems to support fairly good coverage with the variants.  Even if the effectiveness of one vaccine tends to drop somewhat with a particular variant, it appears these vaccines right now are still doing a pretty good job of preventing severe disease with all the variants.

I can pass along how I intend to approach this right now and that is if there is someone I know that is fully vaccinated I would be comfortable being indoors without a mask or worrying about physical distance with them.  But I plan on still avoiding most group contacts outside my family group without using those measures until we are closer to herd immunity and/or have considerably lower community transmission rates. 

Of course, when out in public or around others that are not vaccinated wearing a mask and maintaining physical distance is still necessary.  

They are doing research and specifically following vaccinated individuals and also continuing to research the effectiveness of the various vaccines with the different variants. So they will have more information as we move forward.  

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Is this to protect you or the others? @pitdakota I ask because I believe that you are not at risk. So if it's for the sake of others, I thought that transmission from a possible asymtomatic vaccinated person to an unvaccinated person is more hypothetical.

Also, good news from scientist in Israel regarding the Pfizer vaccine:

Key Points

• Pfizer said its Covid-19 vaccine blocked 94% of asymptomatic infections in an Israeli study — a result CEO Albert Bourla called “extremely important.”
• The study also found the vaccine was at least 97% effective against symptomatic Covid cases, hospitalizations and deaths, the company said.

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Hi @suzyQ3!  Right now I do that because I am not fully vaccinated & with volunteering at a mass vaccination site I come into contact with a very large number of people on the days I volunteer.  It is kind of hard to socially distance and vaccinate someone in a truck, car, van. LOL.    So I need to be aware and protect others.  

I will have my second vaccination soon and then 2 weeks from then I will be fully vaccinated, but even then I will exercise an abundance of caution.  

[suzyQ3]

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@pitdakota wrote:

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@suzyQ3 wrote:

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@pitdakota wrote:

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@magicmoodz wrote:

@pitdakota 

Once again, thank you for your willingness to share your knowledge and expertise with us. You are truly appreciated!

The concern I have (admittedly I have stepped away from my personal research on Covid because it can drive me to the point of the edge😕) is variants. Is it safe for two VACCINATED (Pfizer or Moderna) people to be in close contact UNMASKED when we don't know the efficacy of our current vaccines against the ever-growing variants?

Truthfully I was a little disappointed with the new CDC guidelines. We are all suffering from Covid fatigue and sometimes when we are given an inch we  might take a mile relaxing the precautions we have lived with for so long.

@pitdakota If you can shed some light, I would love to hear from you.  

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@magicmoodz, thank you for your kind words, just glad to be of some help where I can be.   In regard to your concerns about variants, for now the data seems to support fairly good coverage with the variants.  Even if the effectiveness of one vaccine tends to drop somewhat with a particular variant, it appears these vaccines right now are still doing a pretty good job of preventing severe disease with all the variants.

I can pass along how I intend to approach this right now and that is if there is someone I know that is fully vaccinated I would be comfortable being indoors without a mask or worrying about physical distance with them.  But I plan on still avoiding most group contacts outside my family group without using those measures until we are closer to herd immunity and/or have considerably lower community transmission rates. 

Of course, when out in public or around others that are not vaccinated wearing a mask and maintaining physical distance is still necessary.  

They are doing research and specifically following vaccinated individuals and also continuing to research the effectiveness of the various vaccines with the different variants. So they will have more information as we move forward.  

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Is this to protect you or the others? @pitdakota I ask because I believe that you are not at risk. So if it's for the sake of others, I thought that transmission from a possible asymtomatic vaccinated person to an unvaccinated person is more hypothetical.

Also, good news from scientist in Israel regarding the Pfizer vaccine:

Key Points

• Pfizer said its Covid-19 vaccine blocked 94% of asymptomatic infections in an Israeli study — a result CEO Albert Bourla called “extremely important.”
• The study also found the vaccine was at least 97% effective against symptomatic Covid cases, hospitalizations and deaths, the company said.

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Hi @suzyQ3!  Right now I do that because I am not fully vaccinated & with volunteering at a mass vaccination site I come into contact with a very large number of people on the days I volunteer.  It is kind of hard to socially distance and vaccinate someone in a truck, car, van. LOL.    So I need to be aware and protect others.  

I will have my second vaccination soon and then 2 weeks from then I will be fully vaccinated, but even then I will exercise an abundance of caution.  

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I appreciate this, @pitdakota. We're in the position of being fully vaccinated, but our family is not eligible yet. They all did have the virus way back in March or April. Also, my grandson's partner is included in all family stuff. He thinks that he had it as well. Only my daughter was tested and positive, the others were mildly sick and presumed to have the virus.

We are having dinner at their house tomorrow night. I told them that it's okay to eat inside (it's been unusually cool here in SoCal). I doubt that any of us will be wearing masks, at least not when eating. All of them are very careful when out and about, and barring any excursions outside of our two beach cities, the numbers here have not been high.

I hope our plan is not too ambitious.

[pitdakota]

@suzyQ3, totally understand.  I remember when your daughter was diagnosed back in the beginning here in the States.  I hope you have a great dinner with your family!

I did 62 vaccinations the other day, so I would hate to think about potentially exposing any of those individuals.  And that was just one day, I don't know how many I did the previous day....but probably about that same number.  Technically, the ones coming in for their second vaccination would probably be ok.  But the ones coming for their first vaccination might not be.  So for right now I just need to exercise a good deal of caution to protect others.