here we go again at CBS - Page 2

Wsmom · ‎03-09-2010

@lovesallanimals, I understand what you're saying. In the '70s and '80s it was very common where I worked, too, and from men who would be considered to be in power. We must have just been in a nicer environment because the only women who didn't shut them down were the ones who willingly went on to have affairs with them. None of us lost our jobs and our positions were all the same and we moved up at the same rate as any of the other women. There were also the gals who threw themselves at the men in power, too.

RoughDraft · ‎03-09-2010

@lovesallanimals Getting "hit on" by a co-worker is something most women are familiar with in the work place. However, if the co-worker is an equal in position or the mail clerk, or the guy who has a desk across from yours is one thing. Easy to tell them no and get on with you day.

The problem with these cases is that the "guy" either owns the business, is a CEO or your superior in some way. They use it as power over their victims and can be vindictive or cause you to lose you job and make sure no one else hires you.

That's the difference.

~The only difference between this place and the Titanic is that the Titanic had a band.~

Cakers3 · ‎06-17-2015

@puttypiesmom wrote:
Also wanted to say that "walking away" from a good job is not only unfair to the woman but doesn't solve the issue for the next woman who has to put up with it.

@puttypiesmom X 1000

Exactly. The woman is "punished" by leaving a job that pays her bills; who is to say she can just walk into another job with a snap of her fingers.

"" Compassion is a verb."-Thich Nhat Hanh

kivah · ‎03-11-2010

You need to realize the culture of the past about men groping/sexually harassing women wasn't taken seriously - until now. Who would report the abuser to? If you went to another company, it probably would have happened there as well. Women work hard to climb the ladder - and they're going to hold on. Men have no right to ruin a woman's career if she doesn't agree to get involved. But - men thought that was normal behavior.

ROMARY · ‎04-28-2010

These were and are tough situations, and often and most likely not easy to prove.

'More or less', 'Right or wrong', 'In general', and 'Just thinking out loud ' (as usual).

Cakers3 · ‎06-17-2015

@lovesallanimals wrote:
ok, please do not misconstrue what I am about to write, it is just my opinion and it has been bothering me lately. It goes without saying that any kind of abuse, whether physical or mental is wrong and should never be excused or tolerated in any way. However, what bothers me when I read the many stories of the women who have come forward is why they just didn't walk away as soon as they were propositioned. One of the woman from CBS stated that she gave in as she was afraid to lose her job. I am a woman, and a baby boomer. When I worked on Wall St. during the late 60s, into the 70s and 80s it was exactly like Mad Men. I was hit on plenty of times and I just told them NO! and that was the end of it. I can see if you are a woman, maybe have children, no husband, etc. and really need the money but these women could have just walked away and said to h-ll with the job. They were educated women. I always said to my co-workers that I would rather scrub toilets (no shame in being a cleaning woman, it is honest work) than be forced into situations that were not acceptable. It is called self-respect.

@lovesallanimalsIn your situation-if it didn't stop would you have reported it or just walked away from your job?

You SAY you would rather scrub toilets and I assume you mean rather than engage in unwanted sexual relations. But would you really end up in a minimum wage job?

Being educated or not, women just cannot snap their fingers and find other work.

Educated women are less likely to find lower paying jobs or jobs that are not in line with their education. That's a fact.

And if a woman in a lower paying job and/or position is harassed, that doesn't mean she just snaps her fingers and finds a new job.

You seem to believe that it's all up to women; and it's not. Because walking away leaves the harasser in HIS nice job, all set to push himself onto another woman.

"" Compassion is a verb."-Thich Nhat Hanh

luvmybeetle · ‎08-10-2013

@MoJoV wrote:
Why should a woman have to "walk away" from a job she loves,earned and is good at? Because someone with power over her decides to use it in bullying and worse ways? H*ll with that. Good riddance to all the scumbags.

This is exactly correct. Why should you walk away from a good job and then some unsuspecting woman that comes next have to put up with that. If you are harrassed, that is wrong. Men need to stop this kind of threat.

Wsmom · ‎03-09-2010

I wanted to add on to what I said after thinking some more. In another department the women who had affairs with their superiors, once they were finished, were then sent to less desirous jobs while their male adulterous partner was promoted. That was pretty common. And even in the case when his superior was a woman. Go figure.

lovesallanimals · ‎03-11-2010

OK ladies, please stop "ganging up" on me. Maybe I did not explain it correctly but I did not mean that anyone should walk away without reporting it. Of course you should say something, absolutely. What I was trying to say was that when Weinstein, for example, opens up his hotel room and is standing there naked in his bathrobe and asks you to you know what, I would immediately and I mean immediately get the heck out of there. I would then report it. If no one believed me, or if nothing was done at that time and I had to work with this man, I would find another job. End of story. I was propositioned by a very, very, senior guy who was making a fortune for an investment bank I worked in. They wanted me to work with him as they thought I could handle him (he had a "reputation"). I firmly said no way would I work with him. My feelings were respected and I wound up working with a terrific guy.