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Icegoddess · ‎03-19-2010

@NickNack wrote:
@Tinkrbl44 wrote:
@Mz iMac

Last week I was reading instructions for a flashlight & batteries and the warning was pretty surprising ..... it said all caution must be taken so that a little teeny lithium battery wasn't accidentally swallowed because it could cause VERY serious injury and death within 2 hours because it could tear a hole in the esophagus.

Talk about scary ....... who wants this kind of thing in their home?

@Tinkrbl44 I read an article recently about those teeny tiny batteries in some small remotes like the flameless candle remotes caused the death of an infant. The mother found the remote with the back removed and realized the infant might have eaten the battery. The baby was taken to the ER where they found the battery. It had already torn a hole in the baby's esophagus, and the baby died. This has happened with pets, too.

They are now suggesting (maybe requiring, I'm not sure) the backs of remotes with that type of battery to be screwed on.

Those small round batteries are exactly the sort of thing I would've swallowed as a child. I swallowed a screw out of my baby bed, a nickle, and a round whistle, although the whistle was an accident.

JamandBread · ‎06-24-2021

@Porcelain wrote:
Not all EV manufacturers or even most or some. One. This thread is trashing GM only.

General Motors Chevy Bolts from 2017-2019 that were previously recalled. The repair they made on the recall wasn't enough and 2 cars had this problem, out of all of them. So they added this additional guidance to their recall.

The original post mistakenly makes it sound like all EVs have some sort of mattress tag manufacturer's warning on them.

The original post is misleading by saying some car makers as opposed to one, and acting as if it applies to all EVs in general, when the issue happened to only 2 cars.

Maybe the OP's original source was misleading and biased and not the poster herself, and she just believed and repeated what she heard second hand. That happens a lot.

"General Motors is telling owners of some older Chevrolet Bolts to park them outdoors and not to charge them overnight because two of the electric cars caught fire after recall repairs were made.

The company said Wednesday that the request covers 2017 through 2019 Bolts that were part of a group that was recalled earlier due to fires in the batteries.

The latest request comes after two Bolts that had gotten recall repairs caught fire, one in Vermont and the other in New Jersey, GM spokesman Kevin Kelly said."

THANK YOU for posting the facts. I wish those running with the story in the OP would read this.

hckynut · ‎03-10-2010

I don't know what type of batteries they put in electric cars, mostly because I am not the least bit interested in them.

Many don't know that their vehicles "wet cell" batteries can explode. I knew that decades ago, and that was prior to one actually blowing up in my face.

Early '60's during the winter, a friend of mine's car would not start. Put on the jumper cables, next thing I know his battery exploded in my face. Got acid in my eyes and headed right into his house to flush my eyes out.

Took most of the day for my eyes to clear up. I was lucky, I must have blinked at the right time. It also ruined my nice suede jacket/shirt and gloves.

Lithium batteries are known to be much higher risk to explode under certain circumstances. Watched a show where a UPS plane had to make an emergency landing because of an explosion. They first thought it was a bomb placed on the plane. Nope, stacks of lithium batteries turned out to be the source.

Imagine California going to electric cars? Seems to me they gave enough trouble keeping homes AC on in the hot weather. Better do a big upgrade before very many electric cars are sold in their state.

hckynut

hckynut(john)

Judaline · ‎03-10-2010

@Porcelain wrote:
Not all EV manufacturers or even most or some. One. This thread is trashing GM only.

General Motors Chevy Bolts from 2017-2019 that were previously recalled. The repair they made on the recall wasn't enough and 2 cars had this problem, out of all of them. So they added this additional guidance to their recall.

The original post mistakenly makes it sound like all EVs have some sort of mattress tag manufacturer's warning on them.

The original post is misleading by saying some car makers as opposed to one, and acting as if it applies to all EVs in general, when the issue happened to only 2 cars.

Maybe the OP's original source was misleading and biased and not the poster herself, and she just believed and repeated what she heard second hand. That happens a lot.

"General Motors is telling owners of some older Chevrolet Bolts to park them outdoors and not to charge them overnight because two of the electric cars caught fire after recall repairs were made.

The company said Wednesday that the request covers 2017 through 2019 Bolts that were part of a group that was recalled earlier due to fires in the batteries.

The latest request comes after two Bolts that had gotten recall repairs caught fire, one in Vermont and the other in New Jersey, GM spokesman Kevin Kelly said."

Volts.

gardenman · ‎03-09-2010

The lithium-ion battery design is 95% science and 5% voodoo. Get it wrong and your batteries tend to catch fire or explode. There have been countless examples of engineers getting it wrong. Sony laptops were an early example. Ironically some of the reporters covering the recall were using Sony laptops at the press conference and were seen closing them and shutting them down during the press conference. Samsung had a more recent issue with their phone batteries. Pretty nearly every company using lithium-ion batteries has gotten burned at some point. You're trying to contain a whole lot of energy in a very small space and that tends to be challenging. When something goes wrong, it tends to go wrong in a spectacular fashion.

Electric cars, Teslas in particular, take extreme measures to keep their batteries cool. To the point where even when you're not driving the car and it's not turned on, they have pumps circulating coolant, fans blowing on the radiators, and the car using energy even when it's just sitting there. And it's all done to try and keep the batteries stable.

When an electric car catches fire, it's not the easiest thing to put out either. Richard Hammond crashed an experimental electric car on the show "The Grand Tour" and it reportedly burned for three days after the accident. They'd get the fire out, everything seemed fine, then it would burst into flames again a bit later. Those batteries hold a lot of energy and when something goes wrong, that energy causes all kinds of chaos.

Fly!!! Eagles!!! Fly!!!

NicksmomESQ · ‎08-19-2014

I see no purpose in electric cars. They don't go very far on a charge, you have to worry about where the next charging station is, they cost more & now they can explode too!! I have no interest in owning one.

Sweetbay magnolia · ‎04-14-2013

Could I send a message, please, that the moral of the story is to quit driving so much?

Lithium batteries are resrticted on planes for the same reason.

I see every day, people buying gigantic houses and then just driving away. Why?

If you were around in the late 70s you know about gasoline rationing. The answer is conservation.

Cogito ergo sum

Cakers3 · ‎06-17-2015

@DiAnne wrote:
Teslas are THE car in my neightborhood. There are many and none have caught fire.

@DiAnne The point being?

"" Compassion is a verb."-Thich Nhat Hanh

agb80 · ‎10-16-2020

Hockynt makes a good point about the grid in CA having difficulty with a/c units in homes. Other states too would not fare so well with many hundreds of people if not thousands trying to charge their vehicle at the same time.