Working while stoned: How will companies cope? - Page 9

SusieQ_2 · ‎03-27-2012

@stevieb, I agree with you regarding the positives and the negatives and I believe it's the fact that we are legalizing and taxing pot that this thread was started. If, however, your point was to tell me that people who have just smoked recreational pot are fit to get behind the wheel of a car, or aren't doing it to get high, simply because an aspirin leaves you sleepy, then I guess we're going to have to disagree. And don't a lot of OTC drugs have warnings on them about operating heavy machinery--meaning that to do so comes with risks and responsibility?

Sorry, but I'm a little confused by what point you're actually trying to make with the aspirin analogy.

SusieQ_2 · ‎03-27-2012

@Noel7 wrote:
@Mominohio wrote:
@JaneMarple wrote:
@SeaMaiden wrote:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/careersandeducation/working-while-stoned-how-will-companies-cope/ar-...
How do they cope now? It won't be any different then co-workers who work while drunk, high on illegal/legal pills, meth or any other substance that shouldn't be consumed while on the job.

It will be different.

IT is yet another nod of acceptance to the use of substance that impairs.

It relaxes the social standards of what is acceptable, and will open the door to many using who did not because of fear of legal repercussions in the past, and will open the door to those who did already use, to feel they are free to do so more intensely.

It is already staggering how many people are behind the wheel impaired and at work impaired, jeopardizing the life and safety of others (alcohol and drugs). Legalization doesn't nothing to reduce or limit an already bad situation, but will make it worse, plain and simple.

@Mominohio

It does not impair people who use it responsibly, in fact, it can save many from horrendous pain and children from debilitating seizures.

The OP's article also said many regular users perform better on the job.

What the article said was that, like an alcoholic, a regular user may perform better than the occasional user.

Ex: who would be more able to down two whiskeys at lunch and return to work less impaired...the alcoholic who is used to at least two whiskeys a day, or the person who has a glass of wine a couple of times a year?

Obviously the answer is the person who has built up a tolerance BUT that doesn't mean the alcoholic, or regular user is unimpaired...only that they can handle it better than someone who has no tolerance.

The article is not saying regular users perform on the job better than non-users. That's a big difference.

Noel7 · ‎03-09-2010

I don't understand the hysteria shown. It's as if some fear this will bring on the apocalypse.

SusieQ_2 · ‎03-27-2012

@Noel7 wrote:
I don't understand the hysteria shown. It's as if some fear this will bring on the apocalypse.

Maybe you could point out the hysteria, because what I see is discusssion.

blackhole99 · ‎08-22-2013

I didn't read all the posts so I don't know if someone already addressed this or not.mj is not legal in my state for recreational use, but medical mj is. Alcohol of course is legal in my state, but if you got to work drunk, you no doubt will be fired. That being said, the employer has to prove you are drunk to send you home otherwise the company can be sued by the employee. I saw it first hand when a nurse had a drink at lunch and the supervisor smelled it on her and went ape. One of the other nurses called the Director of Nursing at home when things started to get out of hand and the supervisor got in all kinds of trouble over how she handled the situation. I think the same thing would apply with mj, but as JS says," good people don't smoke marijuana".I guess you are still a good person if you have a couple of drinks.

stevieb · ‎03-10-2010

@SusieQ_2 wrote:
@stevieb, I agree with you regarding the positives and the negatives and I believe it's the fact that we are legalizing and taxing pot that this thread was started. If, however, your point was to tell me that people who have just smoked recreational pot are fit to get behind the wheel of a car, or aren't doing it to get high, simply because an aspirin leaves you sleepy, then I guess we're going to have to disagree. And don't a lot of OTC drugs have warnings on them about operating heavy machinery--meaning that to do so comes with risks and responsibility?
Sorry, but I'm a little confused by what point you're actually trying to make with the aspirin analogy.

My point @SusieQ_2 is I'm still allowed to buy them and take them... And I'd guess those warnings are heeded far less of the time than one might expect... Yet, we aren't hearing the hue and cry about people being 'impaired' by having taken an OTC drug... nor are we bombarded about the horrendous potential impact on 'society'...

In my pantry with my cupcakes...

stevieb · ‎03-10-2010

@Noel7 wrote:
I don't understand the hysteria shown. It's as if some fear this will bring on the apocalypse.

@Noel7 The Reefer Madness syndrome...

In my pantry with my cupcakes...

skuggles · ‎11-20-2013

@stevieb wrote:
There really is no argument or question for me. I prefer a system that permits individuals to make choices. They then, hopefully, manage their choices responsibly and live with the consequences of those choices and the way they manage them , good or bad. Short of living alone on a mountain top and never venturing out, we are all potentially impacted by the choices other people make every blessed day. For me, this is no different.

@stevieb What a great point.

SusieQ_2 · ‎03-27-2012

@stevieb wrote:
@SusieQ_2 wrote:
@stevieb, I agree with you regarding the positives and the negatives and I believe it's the fact that we are legalizing and taxing pot that this thread was started. If, however, your point was to tell me that people who have just smoked recreational pot are fit to get behind the wheel of a car, or aren't doing it to get high, simply because an aspirin leaves you sleepy, then I guess we're going to have to disagree. And don't a lot of OTC drugs have warnings on them about operating heavy machinery--meaning that to do so comes with risks and responsibility?
Sorry, but I'm a little confused by what point you're actually trying to make with the aspirin analogy.

My point @SusieQ_2 is I'm still allowed to buy them and take them... And I'd guess those warnings are heeded far less of the time than one might expect... Yet, we aren't hearing the hue and cry about people being 'impaired' by having taken an OTC drug... nor are we bombarded about the horrendous potential impact on 'society'...

I see your point stevieb, but when something is changing, such as laws legalizing a substance that is still a crime in other states, it kind of makes sense people would discuss it.

Noel7 · ‎03-09-2010

@cherry wrote:
People have been drinking on the job for years, and also using pot

I don't know if it will be much different than it has been for years

@cherry

Yes, and years ago people saw the same hysteria we are seeing now from some. Anyone who knows their history knows prohibition didn't work.