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Re: Working while stoned: How will companies cope?

My daughter lives in Denver Colorado.  She said she's seen people driving down major highways at 75, 80 miles per hour swerving doing dumb things.

 

She said they are either drunk or more likely, stoned.  I was there a week before Thanksgiving.  I've never seen so many people laying (actually sleeping) on the median in the road way.  They were up against the walls in buildings, they were everywhere.

 

She lives right in the heart of the city of Denver.  The news said there were (just in the city) 1,800 shelters and they need at least that many more (just to start).

 

But why isn't anyone mentioning the fact that a person is drawing carcinogens into their lungs.  This is going to be a repeat in a few years just like cigarettes were.  Remember, there was a time when cigarettes were good and helpful (watch old advertising).

 

Here we go again.  It's all about the money the state will get in taxes.  These (and I use the word loosely) "leaders" don't care about people, only money and how to spend it.

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Moonchilde wrote:

chickenbutt wrote:

I don't think anybody said that 'everyone' who uses it will be responsible.

 

But people who are responsible citizens will, and people who will act irresponsibly most likely already were acting irresponsibly, so nothing really changes with the advent of legal weed.

 

People were buying it way way before it became legal in some places.  I hadn't bought it for probably 20 years but, like millions of others, I purchased my share of it when it was illegal, back in the day.  That didn't automatically make any of us act irresponsibly using it, just by virtue of the fact that we had it.      Things are seldom just black and white - there is way more grey area in any given issue than there is one extreme or the other.

 

I don't know how many more ways to explain that.  


 

 

@chickenbutt, there are those who with their last breath will condemn anyone who professes to use cannabis for any reason in any way, shape or form, and similarly condemn anyone who consumes any alcohol whatsoever. 

 

They can’t relate to me, I can’t relate to them - and I’m great with that. I wouldn’t want to be that for anything. I have no use for those who see anything in 100% black or white. 


 

Yeah, I will only try for so long and if I'm trying to talk to somebody who just won't hear anything that is adverse to whatever they believe, I will give up.  I have a saying for that but I'll save it, as I don't wish to offend anybody.

 

I've also been wondering, through sharing my experience with this here lately, how many people are sitting at home saying - she's a terrible, evil person.

 

If they do - oh well.   That's ok.  I cannot do anything about that.    But I always find it fun to learn and if I don't have a reasonable understanding on a given subjet of interest I will avail myself of facts - and stuff like that.  Smiley Very Happy

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Re: Working while stoned: How will companies cope?

@Annabellethecat66, there is no reason to smoke the MJ.  

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thanks for the PB information.

i generally skip over those posts/threads if i am on those forums.

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I don't think people who use pot are terrible or evil. I don't use it, but if I got really ill, and I thought it would help me ,I would try it

 

Why suffer needlessly?

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@Noel7 wrote:

@chickenbutt wrote:

@onionsoup wrote:

@chickenbuttJust noticed and read your post. Thank you for the invaluable information because one never really knows what their future holds and if they'll need to seek this out too. 


 

Thanks! Smiley Happy

 

I would hope that nobody takes my posts as arguing or anything like that, including the OP.  I appreciate hearing thoughts and I enjoy sharing my experiences, too.  Smiley Happy

 

They first opened the dispensaries last July1 and it actually took me until Dec 7 to go to one.  Not really for much of any reason than I wanted to wait until there weren't crowds (I don't like crowds EVER!) and then I broke my arm badly so I couldn't drive anyway, and the next thing I knew it was Dec and I really wanted to check it out.

 

There are such strict laws around it and it's a very sophisticated operation. You first walk into the first door and there are windows (like bank teller type windows).  You go to one and give them your ID.  You MUST do this to show your age and where you live.  Then they give it back and tell you go to through another door, then a person meets you and takes you through ANOTHER door and you are in the dispensary and they give you a representative to help you.

 

They were very nice so it's not even like if you don't have a medical card they would treat you differently.  They were really awesome, kind, and helpful!


@chickenbutt

 

How do they know what and how much to give to you when it's medical MJ?


 

@Noel7 It isn’t “dispensed” by a doctor handing you your ‘prescription.’ Most doctors are not experts in types and dosages. You receive legal/medical written verification that you have a condition which has been shown to be effectively treated by cannabis.

 

You then go to a dispensary, register with them (D/L ID, and they make a copy of your permission and keep it on file), tell them you’re new, you need help, and what your diagnosis/conditions are. They will ask you if you know how you’d prefer to consume - smoke, vape, pills, eat a cookie or chocolate square, drink or use tincture.

 

The employees of the dispensary are there to help and guide you. MMJ use is trial and error in the sense that there will be variation in how much I would ingest to get a certain effect (sleep, arthritis pain) vs how much you or someone else might need. They will all tell you, lowest dose possible, wait 2 hrs minimum, and then decide whether it did or didn’t put you to sleep, relieve your pain, etc. Next time, up the dose a small amount and see what happens. The idea is smallest effective dose. The employees suggest based on how it all works in a majority of people. Proceed slowly with caution is the #1 suggestion.

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@Moonchilde wrote:

@Noel7 wrote:

@chickenbutt wrote:

@onionsoup wrote:

@chickenbuttJust noticed and read your post. Thank you for the invaluable information because one never really knows what their future holds and if they'll need to seek this out too. 


 

Thanks! Smiley Happy

 

I would hope that nobody takes my posts as arguing or anything like that, including the OP.  I appreciate hearing thoughts and I enjoy sharing my experiences, too.  Smiley Happy

 

They first opened the dispensaries last July1 and it actually took me until Dec 7 to go to one.  Not really for much of any reason than I wanted to wait until there weren't crowds (I don't like crowds EVER!) and then I broke my arm badly so I couldn't drive anyway, and the next thing I knew it was Dec and I really wanted to check it out.

 

There are such strict laws around it and it's a very sophisticated operation. You first walk into the first door and there are windows (like bank teller type windows).  You go to one and give them your ID.  You MUST do this to show your age and where you live.  Then they give it back and tell you go to through another door, then a person meets you and takes you through ANOTHER door and you are in the dispensary and they give you a representative to help you.

 

They were very nice so it's not even like if you don't have a medical card they would treat you differently.  They were really awesome, kind, and helpful!


@chickenbutt

 

How do they know what and how much to give to you when it's medical MJ?


 

@Noel7 It isn’t “dispensed” by a doctor handing you your ‘prescription.’ Most doctors are not experts in types and dosages. You receive legal/medical written verification that you have a condition which has been shown to be effectively treated by cannabis.

 

You then go to a dispensary, register with them (D/L ID, and they make a copy of your permission and keep it on file), tell them you’re new, you need help, and what your diagnosis/conditions are. They will ask you if you know how you’d prefer to consume - smoke, vape, pills, eat a cookie or chocolate square, drink or use tincture.

 

The employees of the dispensary are there to help and guide you. MMJ use is trial and error in the sense that there will be variation in how much I would ingest to get a certain effect (sleep, arthritis pain) vs how much you or someone else might need. They will all tell you, lowest dose possible, wait 2 hrs minimum, and then decide whether it did or didn’t put you to sleep, relieve your pain, etc. Next time, up the dose a small amount and see what happens. The idea is smallest effective dose. The employees suggest based on how it all works in a majority of people. Proceed slowly with caution is the #1 suggestion.


 

Thank you @Moonchilde  That's a lot of good information, I did know it isn't dispensed by a doctor, although I wonder what the MD husband of the ex-Mayor of Oakland will be doing there.

 

My daughter has been in terrible pain for almost two years now, debilitating.  They gave her opiods which she doesn't take, I'm glad of that.

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@cherry wrote:

I don't think people who use pot are terrible or evil. I don't use it, but if I got really ill, and I thought it would help me ,I would try it

 

Why suffer needlessly?


I agree, and that pretty much makes you the same as about 98% of the people posting here. Out of about 125 posts I don't think I saw more than a couple that said it should not be legalized. And we're talking recreational here as well as mmj. Yet somehow I keep reading how closed minded people are. Go figure.

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@tansy wrote:

@Annabellethecat66, there is no reason to smoke the MJ.  


 

Yes, @Annabellethecat66

 

Reports around here say it's the edibles that are selling.

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@tansy But most people do.  When I rode to a friend's house on Christmas day in a Lyft car, the young woman who drove me told me she lives in Kentucky and was bragging about she and her family growing it and trying to make it really good.

 

To my knowledge it is still illegal there?  Yet she just came out and talked about it, to me....a total stranger.