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Re: Working Extra Hard Isn't Worth It

I have only read the OP so perhaps someone has already made this obvious point:

Many people hold their jobs only if they work extra hard. They do not work to get a smile from a boss they may or may not respect. They work hard to keep working. They work hard because they have a work-ethic. It's not about getting perks. It's about keeping the basic elements of a life together.

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Not necessarily work (quite yet) but I have a niece who has always been very hard working and intense. Graduated HS in the top three, excelled in college SATs; had a 4.0 GPA thru college and graduated last year with a BS in business. During the last two years of college she worked as a college summer intern at one of the top companies in her field. Last summer when she left the summer internship to return to college for her masters they called her in an offered her a job beginning September 2014. She graduated 3 weeks ago with a masters and again, a 4.0 GPA. So now she has the summer off and in 4 months she will begin her career making a pretty darn good salary.

Friends of hers from college are still looking for a job and I dare say she is where she is b/c of hard work, so it's worked well for her. I also know her - she'll excel at her career also because she'll feel like she's letting herself down otherwise.

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Working hard is only part of what it takes to get ahead in business.

Networking and socializing with bosses is just as important, maybe even more so.

The people I have seen promoted were not the smartest, the most successful or the hardest workers...they tended to be the best at schmoozing and playing up to the bosses. They were best at playing the game!

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On 6/5/2014 terrier3 said:

Working hard is only part of what it takes to get ahead in business.

Networking and socializing with bosses is just as important, maybe even more so.

The people I have seen promoted were not the smartest, the most successful or the hardest workers...they tended to be the best at schmoozing and playing up to the bosses. They were best at playing the game!

This about sums it up... "They were best at playing the game". I've seen my share of coworkers promoted that did the bare minimum. Lucky for them, they were also tight with the boss.

I've always done more than was expected and have no plans to change. If I were to do less, it would be noticed.

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On 6/5/2014 terrier3 said:

Working hard is only part of what it takes to get ahead in business.

Networking and socializing with bosses is just as important, maybe even more so.

The people I have seen promoted were not the smartest, the most successful or the hardest workers...they tended to be the best at schmoozing and playing up to the bosses. They were best at playing the game!


Yes, and to teach our daughters how to negotiate for pay raises and promotions. Not something that's easy for a lot of women.

From what I've read, this is a good start for making it:

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There is being a great employee and there is being a doormat. I never minded doing my best to be a great employee but I absolutely refused to be anyones doormat. There is just a point where it crosses the line.

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On 6/5/2014 terrier3 said:

Working hard is only part of what it takes to get ahead in business.

Networking and socializing with bosses is just as important, maybe even more so.

The people I have seen promoted were not the smartest, the most successful or the hardest workers...they tended to be the best at schmoozing and playing up to the bosses. They were best at playing the game!

I think that depends on your profession.

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I can understand this OP........I did not believe it until my neighbor was fired for working 7 days a week making a salary and made everything perfectly clean and nice for the renters.........she worked so very hard 10-12 hours a day all through the year and turn on the lights for the renters and go above and beyond and for no reason they let her go..she is older but can run circles around most 40 year olds..........maybe it had something to do with workmans comp but they could have given her severance pay and told her how wonderful a job she did and she used her own money for cleaning supplies............she wanted the best used on the property............she was told they were letting her go and don't pick up anything........so they did not care but the renters care because the place looks awful now.

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Ellis Dee. I just figured it out. LSD. SMH. I am slow.

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On 6/5/2014 NoelSeven said:

I have an example of my own to share, not work, but church. A small group of us were away at a conference, planning the future of the church, a large church. Overcoming one very big obstacle seemed easy to me, so I presented my outline plan in detail. The head of the committee said it would never work, drop the conversation and move on.

I was really thrown since it was a great idea. Back to the larger meeting, he stood up and announced the problem had been solved, he'd had a brilliant idea to do such and such. MY idea.

I talked to the minister who'd been in the meeting with us, I was flabbergasted. He told me that was common in that guy's profession, that guy had never had a clever idea that he knew of, he lived off the ideas of others, presenting them as his.

A good reason to keep his best and brightest under him, not promoted.

Hopefully you presented in front of others so they know you presented the idea. The BIG Man upstairs knows you and that other person. Guess what, you win.