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[LilacTree]

One of the partners in the CPA firm I worked for always said, "people will work at the same level no matter what they are paid. If they're hard workers, they will work hard . . . if they're lazy, they will not. It's just how they are wired." He never based increases on how hard someone worked. If it were up to him, no one would have ever gotten a raise. Fortunately, there were other partners who believed in valuable employees getting good raises.

That boss fits right in with the norm nowadays when employees are not recognized in any way and TPTB don't care if they leave or not. There's always someone else next in line.

[Catfancy]

On 6/4/2014 Ellis Dee said:

My experience is the more you give the more they expect while others are skirting by doing the least possible and still making the same amount. Why bother?

I agree! I tried going the extra mile, but in the end the results were the same. Would have been nice to at least been noticed but it didn't happen.

[Luv2Decorate]

On 6/5/2014 Catfancy1 said:

On 6/4/2014 Ellis Dee said:

My experience is the more you give the more they expect while others are skirting by doing the least possible and still making the same amount. Why bother?

I agree! I tried going the extra mile, but in the end the results were the same. Would have been nice to at least been noticed but it didn't happen.

This is where "treat people the way you want to be treated" works very well. When you see others go the extra mile, say something. When someone does something special, say something, when someone has a happy demeanor, say something. It works! When you compliment someone it opens their eyes and they inturn will probably do the same.

[NoelSeven]

For the most part, I agree with the study, depending on where you're working.

Too many times, the person at the top glories in the work of someone or someones below her or him, taking credit for work that wasn't their work. And very often, the best and the brightest doesn't get the promotions, they want that person kept in place to make sure the work gets done.

I've seen it happen to too many people.

A good friend of ours, just a few years older than my daughter, once told her, "Don't be the girl in the office that makes cookies for everyone. Those girls never get the corner office." Kind of the same thing. It's not usually the nice, hardworking girls that get the promotion.

[NoelSeven]

I have an example of my own to share, not work, but church. A small group of us were away at a conference, planning the future of the church, a large church. Overcoming one very big obstacle seemed easy to me, so I presented my outline plan in detail. The head of the committee said it would never work, drop the conversation and move on.

I was really thrown since it was a great idea. Back to the larger meeting, he stood up and announced the problem had been solved, he'd had a brilliant idea to do such and such. MY idea.

I talked to the minister who'd been in the meeting with us, I was flabbergasted. He told me that was common in that guy's profession, that guy had never had a clever idea that he knew of, he lived off the ideas of others, presenting them as his.

A good reason to keep his best and brightest under him, not promoted.

[LilacTree]

On 6/5/2014 NoelSeven said:

I have an example of my own to share, not work, but church. A small group of us were away at a conference, planning the future of the church, a large church. Overcoming one very big obstacle seemed easy to me, so I presented my outline plan in detail. The head of the committee said it would never work, drop the conversation and move on.

I was really thrown since it was a great idea. Back to the larger meeting, he stood up and announced the problem had been solved, he'd had a brilliant idea to do such and such. MY idea.

I talked to the minister who'd been in the meeting with us, I was flabbergasted. He told me that was common in that guy's profession, that guy had never had a clever idea that he knew of, he lived off the ideas of others, presenting them as his.

A good reason to keep his best and brightest under him, not promoted.

That's really unconscionable. Did you confront him?

[Tissyanne]

I have worked with slackers, and with those who went the extra mile. I think what you get out of it depends on how you feel about yourself, your work ethics. The boss also matters in these situations a lot. Some appreciate and reward hard work. Some bosses add more to the workload of those with an I can do attitude.

[NoelSeven]

On 6/5/2014 Ford1224 said:

On 6/5/2014 NoelSeven said:

I have an example of my own to share, not work, but church. A small group of us were away at a conference, planning the future of the church, a large church. Overcoming one very big obstacle seemed easy to me, so I presented my outline plan in detail. The head of the committee said it would never work, drop the conversation and move on.

I was really thrown since it was a great idea. Back to the larger meeting, he stood up and announced the problem had been solved, he'd had a brilliant idea to do such and such. MY idea.

I talked to the minister who'd been in the meeting with us, I was flabbergasted. He told me that was common in that guy's profession, that guy had never had a clever idea that he knew of, he lived off the ideas of others, presenting them as his.

A good reason to keep his best and brightest under him, not promoted.

That's really unconscionable. Did you confront him?

I did, but somewhat sheepishly. He brushed me off and said he'd realized it was a good idea. I figure he thought that the minute I presented it. I wouldn't be sheepish about it now, especially after finding out he was a big jerk.

[raven-blackbird]

On 6/4/2014 Irshgrl31201 said:

On 6/4/2014 Buck-i-Nana said:

Most people who go above and beyond don't do it for the recognition, they do it because it's what they expect of themselves.

I totally agree with you Buck-i-Nana. Both of the people I mentioned are just self starters and would do it if no one was even watching. It is just "in" them. I don't like to cut corners either not because of anyone else, but because I know.

make that me too..............I think Buck-i-Nana is right on spot.....and I also agree with the article.................................raven

[LilacTree]

On 6/5/2014 NoelSeven said:

On 6/5/2014 Ford1224 said:

On 6/5/2014 NoelSeven said:

I have an example of my own to share, not work, but church. A small group of us were away at a conference, planning the future of the church, a large church. Overcoming one very big obstacle seemed easy to me, so I presented my outline plan in detail. The head of the committee said it would never work, drop the conversation and move on.

I was really thrown since it was a great idea. Back to the larger meeting, he stood up and announced the problem had been solved, he'd had a brilliant idea to do such and such. MY idea.

I talked to the minister who'd been in the meeting with us, I was flabbergasted. He told me that was common in that guy's profession, that guy had never had a clever idea that he knew of, he lived off the ideas of others, presenting them as his.

A good reason to keep his best and brightest under him, not promoted.

That's really unconscionable. Did you confront him?

I did, but somewhat sheepishly. He brushed me off and said he'd realized it was a good idea. I figure he thought that the minute I presented it. I wouldn't be sheepish about it now, especially after finding out he was a big jerk.

No you wouldn't. We live and learn. This is an example of when I would use bad language, LOL (referring to another thread).