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[MamaWick]

On 1/13/2014 NoelSeven said:

On 1/13/2014 MamaWick said:

Apologies, Adelle, but I don't understand your response. But again, I state there is enough blame for both Mia, Woody and even Soon-Yi.

How is Mia to blame for what happened to Soon-Yi or allegedly to Dylan?

There is no evidence Mia knew, in fact, not even speculations that I've seen. Plenty of children are molested and their parents did not know.

The blame I assign to Mia concerns her admitted affair with Sinatra and that HE could possibly be Ronan's father. The blame I assign to Woody is that he should not have begun a relationship with Soon-Yi. The blame I assign to Soon-Yi is that, even though she was young, she should have known better.

It doesn't matter to me that Mia and Woody were never married. They cheated on each other and shame on both of them.

[adelle38]

On 1/13/2014 MamaWick said:

On 1/13/2014 NoelSeven said:

On 1/13/2014 MamaWick said:

Apologies, Adelle, but I don't understand your response. But again, I state there is enough blame for both Mia, Woody and even Soon-Yi.

How is Mia to blame for what happened to Soon-Yi or allegedly to Dylan?

There is no evidence Mia knew, in fact, not even speculations that I've seen. Plenty of children are molested and their parents did not know.

The blame I assign to Mia concerns her admitted affair with Sinatra and that HE could possibly be Ronan's father. The blame I assign to Woody is that he should not have begun a relationship with Soon-Yi. The blame I assign to Soon-Yi is that, even though she was young, she should have known better.

It doesn't matter to me that Mia and Woody were never married. They cheated on each other and shame on both of them.

Cheating is hardly the same as incest. I don't see them as "equal".

[NoelSeven]

On 1/13/2014 MamaWick said:

On 1/13/2014 NoelSeven said:

On 1/13/2014 MamaWick said:

Apologies, Adelle, but I don't understand your response. But again, I state there is enough blame for both Mia, Woody and even Soon-Yi.

How is Mia to blame for what happened to Soon-Yi or allegedly to Dylan?

There is no evidence Mia knew, in fact, not even speculations that I've seen. Plenty of children are molested and their parents did not know.

The blame I assign to Mia concerns her admitted affair with Sinatra and that HE could possibly be Ronan's father. The blame I assign to Woody is that he should not have begun a relationship with Soon-Yi. The blame I assign to Soon-Yi is that, even though she was young, she should have known better.

It doesn't matter to me that Mia and Woody were never married. They cheated on each other and shame on both of them.

A lot of people cheat, I thought we were talking about the child/underage issues.

Mia is not to blame for those, at least as far as we have known over the years.

[ms traditional]

On 1/13/2014 NoelSeven said:

On 1/13/2014 Lion said:

Even if you completely disregard the child abuse charges for Dylan at 7 yrs old, how do you defend or excuse what he did with Mia's daughter, Soon-yi?

He and Mia were in a committed, 10 year long relationship; they had a baby son together. Soon-yi was only about 10 or 11 when Woody entered their family's life.

While *still* in the relationship with Mia, he was sleeping with her daughter, Soon-yi, and even taking n*de pictures of her.

This was a man that Mia's kids looked at as their mother's partner and a virtual step-father. Mia trusted him with her children. How does anyone think that's OK?

Woody didn't have any problem with it. Never even thought it was a scandal.

He's a scum bag.

ITA.

he's pretty disgusting, even for Hollywood.

[RainCityGirl]

On 1/13/2014 Jules5280 said:

On 1/13/2014 RainCityGirl said:

Woody Allen is a genius and an artist. He deserves to have his body of works recognized. Whatever else has happened in his private life is mostly a matter of speculation and gossip, until as such time as the law becomes involved. What Mia has accused him of and had her daughter accuse him of is illegal. Why have there been no huge court proceedings? Mia Farrow made certain accusations about Frank Sinatra to the point where Frank publicly made the statement: "Mia should keep her filthy mouth shut." If I thought she had any credibility at all, I might take this seriously. She seems to have succeeded in poisoning her son's mind against his father. That's for sure. She certainly thought Woody was just fine when he was putting her in his movies. And wasn't Frank Sinatra married to Barbara Marx at the time Ronan was conceived on the opposite side of the country? Where was Andre Previn, the father of all these children she kept adopting? If they didn't live together, how is it that Woody, and not Andre, had so much access to the children? So many questions; so few answers.

So you would give any rapist/pedo a free pass just because they are a "genius" or an "artist"?

Stop with the accusations. I don't intend to address your c r ap. I stand by the words I said, not the ones you want to put in my mouth. Go pick a fight with someone else. I know your M.O.

[Linders Back]

On 1/13/2014 adelle38 said:

On 1/13/2014 MamaWick said:

On 1/13/2014 NoelSeven said:

On 1/13/2014 MamaWick said:

Apologies, Adelle, but I don't understand your response. But again, I state there is enough blame for both Mia, Woody and even Soon-Yi.

How is Mia to blame for what happened to Soon-Yi or allegedly to Dylan?

There is no evidence Mia knew, in fact, not even speculations that I've seen. Plenty of children are molested and their parents did not know.

The blame I assign to Mia concerns her admitted affair with Sinatra and that HE could possibly be Ronan's father. The blame I assign to Woody is that he should not have begun a relationship with Soon-Yi. The blame I assign to Soon-Yi is that, even though she was young, she should have known better.

It doesn't matter to me that Mia and Woody were never married. They cheated on each other and shame on both of them.

Cheating is hardly the same as incest. I don't see them as "equal".

Where did incest suddenly come from? As crazy as all these people are/were, there was never any INCEST. None of these people are even related to each other except Ronan and Mia (and maybe Ronan and Woody????) and I haven't read anything about them doing anything untoward.

[foundinlv]

Farrow adopted Soon-Yi at age 8 with then husband Andre Previn in 1978. The couple divorced in 1979 and Farrow began dating Allen in 1980.

Allen and Previn wed in December 1997 in Venice, Italy and have two adopted daughters. Back in 1992, Soon-Yi Previn told Time Magazine she never considered Allen a father figure in her life.

"To think that Woody was in any way a father or stepfather to me is laughable. My parents are Andre Previn and Mia, but obviously they're not even my real parents," Previn said at the time. "I came to America when I was seven. I was never remotely close to Woody. He was someone who was devoted exclusively to his own children and to his work, and we never spent a moment together."

Previn also said the two began seeing each other around the time she was 20-years-old. She told Time magazine "By that time his relationship with Mia was long done, and they were going through the motions." She added, "They were friendly but rarely went out, and apart from when they worked together or played with their children, had little to do with one another."

source: http://www.ontheredcarpet.com/Woody-Allen-on-marriage-to-Soon-Yi:--What-was-the-scandal-/8209443

[Shorty2U]

From the OP- Thanks for the replies. I still don't care for most of his movies. (haven't seen any recent ones because I refuse to support him with money). I don't think he is just a weird eccentric artist. (and I am NOT speaking of a 20 yr old, I am speaking of a 7 yr old/If you read his sons tweet you will see). He is a child abuser/molester according to his past. That is my opinion (and many others), but you are all welcome to yours.

Thank you again for all your input.

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I can't imagine the turmoil and pain the relationship between Soon-Yi and Allen caused the other children. The two never thought about how their s3xual encounters would impact Dylan, Moses and Ronan. Most of the blame falls on Allen's shoulders but both acted selfishly.

Allen and Farrow were not married and did not live together yet they adopted children together as well as had one biological child together. Allen may not have legally adopted Soon-Yi but she was certainly an active part of the Allen-Farrow household as well as the legal sibling to the three Allen-Farrow children.

So tell me, how could Soon-Yi have not seen Allen as a father figure?

Was Soon-Yi isolated from her brothers and sister? Did she stay at home alone at her mother's while the rest of the family went out with their parents, Allen and Farrow? Did Allen have no contact with Soon-Yi while the rest of her siblings did? Did she not call Allen "Dad" while her brothers and sister did?

[sunala]

I would imagine a DNA test was done on Ronan, but I doubt we'll ever know the results.

Mia comes off so sweet that butter could melt in her mouth, but I think she's bat-s**t crazy.

What was her reason coming forth with the story that Ronan could be the son of Frank Sinatra at this time? What did she accomplish? Publicity?

I love Woody's movies and I'll continue to watch them as they come out. I'm not sure why I'm not hating on him like just about everyone else, but I don't believe most of what I hear.

It's all speculation.