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Re: Woman Fired over $200 Tip

On 4/10/2014 JaneMarple said:
On 4/10/2014 scotttie said:

I think that Ihop should eat the loss and then institute a new policy about double checking tips over 20 percent.

Sounds good to me.

Me, too.

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Re: Woman Fired over $200 Tip

I don't think sharing tips is fair to the ones who work hard.
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Re: Woman Fired over $200 Tip

On 4/10/2014 esmerelda said: I don't think sharing tips is fair to the ones who work hard.

I don't either and it really stinks for servers who consistently make double what others make.

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Re: Woman Fired over $200 Tip

On 4/10/2014 esmerelda said: I guess there were two managers...the one who gave her the tip at the end of the shift and the one who asked for it back. Tips aren't evenly shared anymore?
It's a pancake house so the waitress probably takes care of the table all the way through the meal but she would owe money to the bus person.
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Re: Woman Fired over $200 Tip

On 4/10/2014 Irshgrl31201 said:
On 4/10/2014 esmerelda said: I don't think sharing tips is fair to the ones who work hard.

I don't either and it really stinks for servers who consistently make double what others make.

Tips are shared when one person takes the order and another person brings the food out. That is fairly common anymore.
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Re: Woman Fired over $200 Tip

On 4/10/2014 tansy said:
On 4/10/2014 Irshgrl31201 said:
On 4/10/2014 esmerelda said: I don't think sharing tips is fair to the ones who work hard.

I don't either and it really stinks for servers who consistently make double what others make.

Tips are shared when one person takes the order and another person brings the food out. That is fairly common anymore.

Tips aren't "shared" then, they simply tip out the food runner. Each night before I left I totaled my sales and had to give a percentage to the bartender, busboy, food runner, some times a hostess. Sharing a tip is when everyone in the restaurants pools all their tips and splits them evenly between the amount of people working.

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Re: Woman Fired over $200 Tip

Okay, different terrminology then. I'd consider that sharingSmiley Happy
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On 4/10/2014 tansy said: Okay, different terrminology then. I'd consider that sharingSmiley Happy


Well I guess you could consider it sharing in some way. It isn't like they used to though. Say I make $1500.00 in food sales, each job gets a different percentage usually between 1-3%. Whether I make $300 in tips (which is what I should make with $1500 in sales) or $200 I still have to tip out the bartender 1.5%, the busser 1% and the food runner 1% of my total sales. Long ago they would have taken my $300 and took whatever the other servers made and split it between all the servers working. That old way worked out good for the lazy people who don't hustle but not so good for the hustlers. Also if you are a hustler you will get bus boys fighting over you because they know your sales will be higher and you will tip better. They also worked harder because they want to help you turn over those tables as fast as you can so you can make more.

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Re: Woman Fired over $200 Tip

On 4/10/2014 Issiestorm said:

I can see why some folks think the tip indicated $200; but I don't think it looked all that clear, and the fact that it wasn't totaled should have been a red flag.

Yes! He didn't fill out the tab correctly...and the waitress should have been the first person to take note of this.

Since she didn't, I agree the restaurant management is also partly to blame. But I really take issue with those who say the customer needs to "eat" it. Clearly, his intention was not to leave a ridiculously large tip.

I hope all servers and restaurant managers have learned of this incident, and are in tune to a way to manage similar issues in the future. We have more and more people living into their 80's, 90's...and even though they can get around and go out to eat...some of the financial aspects of paying for their meals and leaving appropriate tips, is challenging to them.

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Re: Woman Fired over $200 Tip

On 4/10/2014 Irshgrl31201 said:
On 4/10/2014 tansy said: Okay, different terrminology then. I'd consider that sharingSmiley Happy


Well I guess you could consider it sharing in some way. It isn't like they used to though. Say I make $1500.00 in food sales, each job gets a different percentage usually between 1-3%. Whether I make $300 in tips (which is what I should make with $1500 in sales) or $200 I still have to tip out the bartender 1.5%, the busser 1% and the food runner 1% of my total sales. Long ago they would have taken my $300 and took whatever the other servers made and split it between all the servers working. That old way worked out good for the lazy people who don't hustle but not so good for the hustlers. Also if you are a hustler you will get bus boys fighting over you because they know your sales will be higher and you will tip better. They also worked harder because they want to help you turn over those tables as fast as you can so you can make more.

The bus boys "fought" for my tables because they knew I'd hand over 10% of my tips at the end of the shift and not try to shortchange them. That was the expected cut for the bussers.