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[lovescats]

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@betteb wrote:

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@lovescats wrote:

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@betteb wrote:

The "update" or "patch" to convert your old OS to Windows 10 is never as good as the whole product, a machine with the entire Windows 10 OS installed from the beigining.

My best advice is to wait to get Windows 10 until you need a new computer and buy one with it already installed.

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for the time this takes to download and install I wouldn't call it a patch.  My OS is now windows 10  and it doesn't give me the option to go back even though microsoft says you can.  

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Unless your old OS is competely wiped off the machine, it's a patch, I'm pretty sure.

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I'm pretty sure it is wiped off but it could be worse.   I cannot use windows restore point for windows 7.  They are not called programs anymore they are called apps.  Way  way many more things than I list in spoiler below.  but Itunes is the big thing for me but I do have a mini ipad.  I won't be surprised if there is a class action suit over this

Spoiler

App name Publisher Version
Adblock Plus for IE 1.1
Adblock Plus for IE (32-bit and 64-bit) Eyeo GmbH 1.4
Adobe AIR Adobe Systems Incorporated 16.0.0.245
Adobe Digital Editions
Adobe Flash Player 18 NPAPI Adobe Systems Incorporated 18.0.0.209
Adobe Reader XI (11.0.12) Adobe Systems Incorporated 11.0.12
Adobe Shockwave Player 11.5 Adobe Systems, Inc 11.5.8.612
Amazon Cloud Player Amazon Services LLC 1.5.0.341
Amazon Kindle Amazon
Amazon Music Importer Amazon Services LLC 3.1.0
Amazon Send to Kindle Amazon 1.0.1.239
Apple Application Support (32-bit) Apple Inc. 3.2
Apple Application Support (64-bit) Apple Inc. 3.1.3
Apple Mobile Device Support Apple Inc. 8.2.1.3
Apple Software Update Apple Inc. 2.1.3.127
ATI Catalyst Install Manager ATI Technologies, Inc. 3.0.808.0
AudibleManager Audible, Inc. 2004430960.48.56.2887026
Avast Free Antivirus AVAST Software 10.3.2223
Bing Bar Microsoft Corporation 7.3.132.0
Blio K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc. 3.2.9594
Bonjour Apple Inc. 3.0.0.10
BurnAware Free 6.9.3 Burnaware
calibre Kovid Goyal 1.13.0
Cisco Connect Cisco Consumer Products LLC 1.3.11069.2
Coupon Printer for Windows Coupons.com Incorporated 5.0.1.6
CyberLink DVD Suite CyberLink Corp. 7.0.3525
CyberLink PowerDVD 10 CyberLink Corp. 10.0.3.2815
CyberLink YouCam CyberLink Corp. 3.2.1.3609
Dropbox Dropbox, Inc. 2.6.24
Energy Star Digital Logo Hewlett-Packard 1.0.1
ePUBee DRM Removal ePUBee Inc. 3.0.1.8
ESU for Microsoft Windows 7 Hewlett-Packard 1.0.0
FaxRedist 1.0.0
File Type Assistant Trusted Software
Flickr Uploadr 3.2.1
GLUCOFACTS(TM) Deluxe Bayer HealthCare 3.08.02
GLUCOFACTS(TM) Deluxe Smart Launch Bayer HealthCare 1.29.01
Google Chrome Google Inc. 44.0.2403.107
Google Earth Google 7.1.2.2041
Google Toolbar for Internet Explorer Google Inc. 7.5.6710.2136
HP 3D DriveGuard Hewlett-Packard Company 4.1.9.1
HP CloudDrive Zecter Inc.
HP CoolSense Hewlett-Packard Company 2.20.31
HP Documentation Hewlett-Packard 1.1.0.0
HP ENVY 4500 series Basic Device Software Hewlett-Packard Co. 32.0.1180.44630
HP ENVY 4500 series Help Hewlett Packard 30.0.0
HP FWUpdateEDO2 Hewlett-Packard 1.2.0.0
HP Games WildTangent 1.0.1.5
HP MovieStore Hewlett-Packard 2.0
HP On Screen Display Hewlett-Packard Company 1.2.2
HP Photo Creations HP 1.0.0.7702
HP Power Manager Hewlett-Packard Company 1.4.4
HP Quick Launch Hewlett-Packard Company 2.5.2
HP Setup Hewlett-Packard Company 8.4.4487.3576
HP Setup Manager Hewlett-Packard Company 1.0.12845.3522
HP SimplePass 2011 Hewlett-Packard 5.0.1.448
HP Software Framework Hewlett-Packard Company 4.1.13.1
HP Support Assistant Hewlett-Packard Company 7.4.45.4
HP Update Hewlett-Packard 5.005.002.002
HP Wireless Assistant Hewlett-Packard Company 4.0.10.0
iCloud Apple Inc. 4.1.1.53
IDT Audio IDT 1.0.6345.0
IHA_MessageCenter Verizon 1.8.17
Intel(R) Control Center Intel Corporation 1.2.1.1007
Intel(R) Display Audio Driver Intel Corporation 6.14.00.3074
Intel(R) Management Engine Components Intel Corporation 7.0.0.1144
Intel(R) Rapid Storage Technology Intel Corporation 10.6.0.1002
Intel(R) Wireless Display Intel Corporation 2.0.27.0
iTunes Apple Inc. 12.2.1.16
Java 8 Update 51 Oracle Corporation 8.0.510
JavaFX 2.1.1 Oracle Corporation 2.1.1
LabelPrint CyberLink Corp. 2.5.3429
Laplink PCsync Laplink Software, Inc. 6.02.0000
LinkMeter 1.4.3.31 Arbitron Inc. 1.4.3.31
Logitech SetPoint 6.32 Logitech 6.32.20
Microsoft Image Composite Editor Microsoft Corporation 1.4.4
Microsoft Office 2010 Microsoft Corporation 14.0.4763.1000
Microsoft Office Click-to-Run 2010 Microsoft Corporation 14.0.4763.1000
Microsoft Office Starter 2010 - English Microsoft Corporation 14.0.4763.1000
Microsoft OneDrive Microsoft Corporation 17.3.5907.0716
Microsoft Silverlight Microsoft Corporation 5.1.40416.0
Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Compact Edition [ENU] Microsoft Corporation 3.1.0000
Microsoft SQL Server Compact 3.5 SP2 ENU Microsoft Corporation 3.5.8080.0
Microsoft SQL Server Compact 3.5 SP2 x64 ENU Microsoft Corporation 3.5.8080.0
Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 ATL Update kb973923 - x64 8.0.50727.4053 Microsoft Corporation 8.0.50727.4053
Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 Redistributable Microsoft Corporation 8.0.59193
Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 Redistributable Microsoft Corporation 8.0.56336
Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 Redistributable Microsoft Corporation 8.0.61001
Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 Redistributable (x64) Microsoft Corporation 8.0.56336
Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 Redistributable (x64) Microsoft Corporation 8.0.50727.42
Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 Redistributable (x64) Microsoft Corporation 8.0.61000
Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 Redistributable (x64) - KB2467175 Microsoft Corporation 8.0.51011
Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable - KB2467174 - x64 9.0.30729.5570 Microsoft Corporation 9.0.30729.5570
Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable - KB2467174 - x86 9.0.30729.5570 Microsoft Corporation 9.0.30729.5570
Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable - x64 9.0.21022 Microsoft Corporation 9.0.21022
Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable - x64 9.0.30729.17 Microsoft Corporation 9.0.30729
Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable - x64 9.0.30729.4148 Microsoft Corporation 9.0.30729.4148
Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable - x64 9.0.30729.6161 Microsoft Corporation 9.0.30729.6161
Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable - x86 9.0.21022 Microsoft Corporation 9.0.21022
Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable - x86 9.0.30729.17 Microsoft Corporation 9.0.30729
Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable - x86 9.0.30729.4148 Microsoft Corporation 9.0.30729.4148

[LTT1]

@betteb  thanks for the advice.

To all: Did I hear right that Windows 10 will be the only OS supported starting in fall?  Not sure what this means?  Autoupdates will not be availabe?

[betteb]

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@LTT1 wrote:

@betteb  thanks for the advice.

To all: Did I hear right that Windows 10 will be the only OS supported starting in fall?  Not sure what this means?  Autoupdates will not be availabe?

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I'd be surprised if there was no other OS supported that soon. I could be wrong, but maybe it's the Windows 8 series that won't be supported, but support will continue for Windows 7. 

[faeriemoon]

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@betteb wrote:

The "update" or "patch" to convert your old OS to Windows 10 is never as good as the whole product, a machine with the entire Windows 10 OS installed from the beigining.

My best advice is to wait to get Windows 10 until you need a new computer and buy one with it already installed.

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Thank you for this info; I was wondering about this.  

[LilacTree]

Oh, I surely won't.  I spent a good amount of money buying a new desktop directly from Dell because I wanted one with Windows 7.  I have been thrilled with this purchase (about a year ago) and will never upgrade from Windows 7. 

Windows 10 has a lot of the same issues Windows 8 and 8.1 had.  NO WAY!

[viva923]

I have both a windows 7 which I love and a windows 8.1. 

that 8.1 can be kicked to the curb, plain awful, i can't really say what i think of that garbage 8.1 would be banned for life on these boards.

anything has to be better than that awful 8.1 that i have now.

[betteb]

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@viva923 wrote:

I have both a windows 7 which I love and a windows 8.1. 

that 8.1 can be kicked to the curb, plain awful, i can't really say what i think of that garbage 8.1 would be banned for life on these boards.

anything has to be better than that awful 8.1 that i have now.

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That's why I bought a laptop while I could still get one with Windows 7. I've completely skipped the 8 series. 

[NoelSeven]

lovescats and bette -

Thank you both for the warning!  I was thinking of downloading Windows 10, I won't now.  My computer is only two years old, so I may just wait awhile instead of getting a new one just for 10.

DH was going to download it on his laptop, I told him what you both said and he will probably wait, he has a lot of his photography on it.

[jackthebear]

thanks

I was going to wait for reviews before implementing it anyway.

I skipped the latest update of Itunes as well

[CelticCrafter]

I've had the upgrade icon on my taskbar for what seemed like forever and I just noticed it's gone. 

I don't like extra stuff showing on my taskbar and I'm glad it's gone, I had no intentions of upgrading.