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Re: Why is this saying offensive?


@Gemspirit wrote:

I think, IMHO....That some people feel it's an old fashioned mysoginistic saying. It's bringing up lots of feelings to some

~I don't need a man, or have my husband to make me happy.  

~Divorced women who are trying to find or, have found their own happiness. 

~Happiness isn't tied to a man or marriage; it can be found in many places. 

Just a few thoughts i can can think of for a quick answer. 🌷


It's just the exact opposite.

 

~I don't need a man (WOMAN) or have my husband (WIFE) to make me happy.
~Divorced women (MEN) who are trying to find or, have found their own happiness.
~Happiness isn't tied to a man (WOMAN) or marriage; it can be found in many places.

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Re: Why is this saying offensive?

I believe the OP used the WRONG word in decribing how most of us feel about the TSV. Offensive? No! Stupid? Yes!

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Re: Why is this saying offensive?

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I don't find it offensive, I just find it ridiculous... No one, simply because they're a wife, should expect to be kowtowed to and no one, just because they're a husband, should expect to have to kowtow to their wife simply to preserve peace in the home... It's antiquated and reinforces gender stereotypes that are antiquated... Personally, any man wimpy enough to subscribe to this little ditty is not a man I'd find very interesting or for whom I'd have much use... Partnerships are supposed to be just that: partnerships...


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Re: Why is this saying offensive?


@jubilant wrote:

It kind of reminds me of that other saying...If momma aint happy nobody is" or something along like line.  I know people say it in jest to be funny so I don't really get offended but I would NEVER  wear it proudly on my chest.  For those that like it....you realize if they come out for one with "daddy" (or husband) you have to grin and bear it! What's good for the goose is good for the gander!!!


I don't like it if it refers to wives or women in general. I don't base my happiness on what my husband says or does & we'll be married 48 yrs. in August. If Daddy ain't happy....tough. Not my fault. 

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Re: Why is this saying offensive?


@Annabellethecat66 wrote:

I don't care one way or another.  I think it's just a sign of the times (I'm 70) that it is necessary to wear a few words plastered on a T-Shirt how you feel or think......

 

I think it's much different than going way back to when my now 40 year old daughters wanted to wear shirts that said "Jordache".  I said, "I'm not paying money to advertise some person's clothing.  You want the shirt.  Get a job and buy it with your own money".

 

They did get jobs for the summer but when they were paying for it, they decided they didn't need the shirt after all.

 

My point is it doesn't make sense to me but if someone feels the need to plaster on their chest their feelings, so for it.  I'd rather spend my money some other ways.....


 

Words and sayings on t shirts have been around for over 50 years. It's not a "sign of the times".

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Re: Why is this saying offensive?

I think it is simply characteristic of the old stereotypes of races, religions, genders etc. that should go away for good.  If we looked at people as individuals we wouldn't have a good many of the problems we have today.

 

And by identifying with groups you let yourself in to be a victim of these things.  I am sick of "As a woman.   .  ."  You are a person, demand that people take you as one and they will.  Stop playing the gender card when you think the world owes you something because "as a woman" you are different.

 

We'll never get past this stuff until we take ourselves there.  And I do mean OURSELVES!

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Re: Why is this saying offensive?

I am offended by the price. Its a mass produced t shirt. 

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Re: Why is this saying offensive?

There is not a thing in the world wrong with it and I have not been a wife for over 18 years but that was so true then and I am sure in most homes today. 

The other old saying I always liked and thought was true was "if Mama ain't happy then no one is happy." 

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Re: Why is this saying offensive?

Is Spencer's Gifts still around? Remember them? They sell/sold offensive tee shirts and other crazy items, when I was a teen they were very popular. 

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Re: Why is this saying offensive?


@151949 wrote:

On threads discussing the TSV some people are saying they find the saying "happy wife , happy life" offensive. OK - I don't get what is offensive about that. 


Because it is condescending.


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