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@Sooner wrote:

Maybe men are treated more poorly?  Have more stress?  More problems?  Feel more helpless?  Feel more responsibility?

 

Who knows?  But it makes you feel like maybe men are under stresses that are not recognized enough by society.  


More so than women? Somehow I seriously doubt that.

 

I had the same reaction as the OP - what is it lately that makes anyone think shooting someone is a way to solve a problem?  In this case, it was a doctor who did the shooting. Someone who took an oath to "do no harm"; indeed to save people's lives.

 

There is no excuse, other than being threatened and in danger of your own life, to shoot someone.  Marriage problems?  Work problems?  Whatever - absolutely no excuse.  And 9 times out of 10, the shooter takes the coward's way out and shoots himself after he's caused harm to others, sometimes (often) innocent bystanders.

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   Maybe because they're raised to take charge more.It's an old fashioned thing but even today there are those men who still feel superior .

  I don't agree.It's just my observation. 

 

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There has been a slight uptick in violent crime but mainly in big cities (and mostly attributed to gangs) over the past year and a half. It is still nothing compared to 1980s and early 90s numbers. They don't know if it is just a blip because criminologists usually look at data from at least 3-5 yrs to show true trends. 

 

 

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I saw this morning on the news, a man shot a 16 yr.old girl drving in the head,just because they were coming to afork in the road,and she was getting ahead of him!!!!!

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Re: Why is it always men?

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@Irshgrl31201 wrote:

There has been a slight uptick in violent crime but mainly in big cities (and mostly attributed to gangs) over the past year and a half. It is still nothing compared to 1980s and early 90s numbers. They don't know if it is just a blip because criminologists usually look at data from at least 3-5 yrs to show true trends. 

 

 


@Irshgrl31201

 

In some areas crime has gone down.  Gee, I haven't even heard of gang violence in CA for a long time.

 

I was thinking specifically of hate crimes which have gone up and are alarming.  And crimes against young girls, the 17 year old girl who was beaten to death with a bat recently and thought to be the result of road rage, and the numerous reports lately of men killing their children because of problems with their wives.

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Both men and women have stress, but some people ar more aggressive, unwilling to accept responsibility for their mistakes and add a firearm, you've got a disaster. 

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Re: Why is it always men?

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@Noel7 wrote:

@Irshgrl31201 wrote:

There has been a slight uptick in violent crime but mainly in big cities (and mostly attributed to gangs) over the past year and a half. It is still nothing compared to 1980s and early 90s numbers. They don't know if it is just a blip because criminologists usually look at data from at least 3-5 yrs to show true trends. 

 

 


@Irshgrl31201

 

In some areas crime has gone down.  Gee, I haven't even heard of gang violence in CA for a long time.

 

I was thinking specifically of hate crimes which have gone up and are alarming.  And crimes against young girls, the 17 year old girl who was beaten to death with a bat recently and thought to be the result of road rage, and the numerous reports lately of men killing their children because of problems with their wives.


Yes, you're right in most places it has gone down. Mostly larger cities with populations over a certain numbers are the places where there has been a slight uptick. Of course there are some exceptions for small towns where the numbers have gone up but that hasn't been a consistent number.

 

Despite hearing on a daily basis about violence, we are actually living in one of the calmest and least violent periods in history. We just have more access to 24/7 tv and news and social media which makes it feel much more violent but the numbers don't support that. 

 

Edited to add: Just now noticed I missed your response about gang violence in Cali. I read too quickly. I guess it depends on where you live but in LA there has been an uptick in gang violence in the last 3 yrs.

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@Irshgrl31201 wrote:

@Noel7 wrote:

@Irshgrl31201 wrote:

There has been a slight uptick in violent crime but mainly in big cities (and mostly attributed to gangs) over the past year and a half. It is still nothing compared to 1980s and early 90s numbers. They don't know if it is just a blip because criminologists usually look at data from at least 3-5 yrs to show true trends. 

 

 


@Irshgrl31201

 

In some areas crime has gone down.  Gee, I haven't even heard of gang violence in CA for a long time.

 

I was thinking specifically of hate crimes which have gone up and are alarming.  And crimes against young girls, the 17 year old girl who was beaten to death with a bat recently and thought to be the result of road rage, and the numerous reports lately of men killing their children because of problems with their wives.


Yes, you're right in most places it has gone down. Mostly larger cities with populations over a certain numbers are the places where there has been a slight uptick. Of course there are some exceptions for small towns where the numbers have gone up but that hasn't been a consistent number.

 

Despite hearing on a daily basis about violence, we are actually living in one of the calmest and least violent periods in history. We just have more access to 24/7 tv and news and social media which makes it feel much more violent but the numbers don't support that. 


Hi @Irshgrl31201

 

It's good to see you, I hope you've been well, you were missed.

 

I think that's generally true, but hate crimes were tracked in 2016 and went up by 20%.

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I think even in 2017 males are still sometimes raised and socialized differently. As far as being open about problems, seeking help, talking about feelings. Combine that with guns being viewed by SOME (I emphasize that word strongly) as an  extension of, symbol of, manhood and there you go.

 

Women commit plenty of crimes and murders. But the mass shooting thing is almost always a male perpetrator. I'm sure there is plenty of research. I think in general women internalize problems and take things out on themselves in unhealthy ways, whereas more men externalize them and blame others and have pent up rage. That is a generalization and of course there are always exceptions. But I think there are societal factors and individual factors. 

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@Noel7 wrote:

@Irshgrl31201 wrote:

@Noel7 wrote:

@Irshgrl31201 wrote:

There has been a slight uptick in violent crime but mainly in big cities (and mostly attributed to gangs) over the past year and a half. It is still nothing compared to 1980s and early 90s numbers. They don't know if it is just a blip because criminologists usually look at data from at least 3-5 yrs to show true trends. 

 

 


@Irshgrl31201

 

In some areas crime has gone down.  Gee, I haven't even heard of gang violence in CA for a long time.

 

I was thinking specifically of hate crimes which have gone up and are alarming.  And crimes against young girls, the 17 year old girl who was beaten to death with a bat recently and thought to be the result of road rage, and the numerous reports lately of men killing their children because of problems with their wives.


Yes, you're right in most places it has gone down. Mostly larger cities with populations over a certain numbers are the places where there has been a slight uptick. Of course there are some exceptions for small towns where the numbers have gone up but that hasn't been a consistent number.

 

Despite hearing on a daily basis about violence, we are actually living in one of the calmest and least violent periods in history. We just have more access to 24/7 tv and news and social media which makes it feel much more violent but the numbers don't support that. 


Hi @Irshgrl31201

 

It's good to see you, I hope you've been well, you were missed.

 

I think that's generally true, but hate crimes were tracked in 2016 and went up by 20%.


I am pretty good. How have you been? I have just been taking some time off and spending it at the beach mainly. It has been nice. I have had my grandson the whole week and the rest of my family just came down yesterday. 

 

Yes, hate crimes have gone up. Most definitely.

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