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[suzyQ3]

I would wager that many of those who decry the work conditions in Chinese factories are also the first to decry unionization for better conditions here in the U.S.

As far as bringing back manufacturing, etc., to the U.S., it will occasionally happen but never in a mass movement. It's a global economy now, and we are not necessarily the big honcho anymore.

Besides, as another poster mentioned, beware of what you wish. We do depend upon exports and imports, and there is no reason that countries whom we punish will not do the same to us.

I try to buy quality wherever I can find it.

Oh, and to poster who didn't think that the OP was broaching all of this, of course she was.

[Kachina624]

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@Anonymous032819 wrote:

Smart phones and most computer devices are made in China.

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@Anonymous032819   It's true most electronic devices are assembled in China, however, they may contain components from other sources.  They use many components made by Intel.  This company employs 4,000 people in my community and has plants many other places.

[Sooner]

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@Anonymous032819 wrote:

I go for the lowest price for me to buy something.

If it's made here, great, if not, that's fine too.

I am not alone in thinking this way.

Wby do you think Wal-Mart and the Dollar Store are so popular?

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@Anonymous032819 You sure aren't alone.  That's why we don't have industry. We made it too expensive for the workforce in this country to be employed while at the same time consumers thought only of price, not what the new laws cost.

OSHA added regulations to protect the worker.  Prices for what they made went up.  Americans thought only about price, so people were unemployed and then on welfare--which costs probably more than buying higher priced USA made products to give them jobs so they could pay taxes.

SO we pay people who can't find jobs because we didn't want to pay for them having safe jobs.  Like Catch 22 isn't it?  

But then it's every person for themselves now, which is also reflected in the attitude for people not to wear masks. We now subscribe to "I'm NOT my brother's keeper" don't we? 

[Foxxee]

This has been an increasing subject discussed here.  I agree with the OP.  She may not have mentioned China, but it does immediately come to mind.

For those who don't know, China is not our friend and doesn't want to be. There are much more important and serious issues involving China than getting low priced products that can be manufactured in other countries including the U.S. 

For those who don't believe that, look it up.  

[GenXmuse]

If we invested more in manufacturing in the US, maybe we wouldn't be facing a shortage of N95 masks that offers the highest protection against the virus instead of relying on a country where it originated from. 

[stevieb]

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@suzyQ3 wrote:

I would wager that many of those who decry the work conditions in Chinese factories are also the first to decry unionization for better conditions here in the U.S.

As far as bringing back manufacturing, etc., to the U.S., it will occasionally happen but never in a mass movement. It's a global economy now, and we are not necessarily the big honcho anymore.

Besides, as another poster mentioned, beware of what you wish. We do depend upon exports and imports, and there is no reason that countries whom we punish will not will not do the same.

I try to buy quality wherever I can find it.

Oh, and to poster who didn't think that the OP was broaching all of this, of course she was.

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If you're referring to me, read my words more carefully... If you're not, then please ignore this post...

[stevieb]

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@GenXmuse wrote:

If we invested more in manufacturing in the US, maybe we wouldn't be facing a shortage of N95 masks that offers the highest protection against the virus instead of relying on a country where it originated from. 

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So agree about the masks  @GenXmuse. Seven or so months into this and they're still impossible to obtain other than for medical personnel. By now, they (and cleaning products...) should be widely available.

[stevieb]

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@Nightowlz wrote:

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@stevieb wrote:

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@Sooner wrote:

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@Krimpette wrote:

Much as I want to support "buy American", I can't believe that manufacturing will come back to this county in a way that makes a difference.  I honestly don't believe that they would be able to staff factories here.

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@Krimpette I can assure you that when people are hungry or need a roof over their head or have kids to feed factory work looks very good.  At least it did a long time ago when I grew up.  

So are people so privileged that they are too good to work in a factory now?  If that is true, no wonder we're in a mess. 

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@Sooner  I personally honestly don't know, but it seems those advocating an, um, 'open door policy' fall all over themselves to point out that Americans no longer want the 'lower level' jobs and hence we need, shall we say, an infusion into our work force... Again, I don't know if it's true or not, but it wouldn't surprise me... I do think there are those quite willing to work hard at whatever job they can get, but I also think there has evovled in this country a bit of snobbism about some kinds of work... I do believe, though, that if more manufacturing jobs were located in the right areas, some folks would be thrilled to take them... 

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@stevieb 

As long as they pay a living wage I don't understand why someone would not want the job. The government will have to stop paying people more when they are not working vs working for decent pay.

Going a little off topic but I'm not for the part of the Green Deal I read about where they want all Americans to make a fair living wage with fair retirement income including those unwilling to work. I'm all for that except the part in paying those unwilling to work. I don't agree with that.

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@Nightowlz... It's a ridiculous concept but not at all surprising in today's climate... One feels certain there are a lot of folks who toiled needlessly over the years and would like a re-do if that option becomes available... Ludicrous...

[furbabylover]

Would you rather that the hoards of Chinese be unemployed and living in miserable conditions?

@patbz

Tell me you're joking! If not??

hckynut(john)

I know, right?

[Foxxee]

Some saying, we wouldn't have this or that if our products weren't made in China.  China is not the only kid on the block, other countries can manufacture products. 

China is making them now, but why should they have the monopoly in the future?  Monopolies are broken up in the U.S. for obvious reasons.  Other companies can't compete.

We used to make most products right here in the USA before China knew how.  We designed and developed those products, then taught the Chinese how to make them. 

Chinese government won't permit American products to be made unless American companies hand over their designs and specs, some that might be patented.  If we leave, they can make them on their own and doing so right now that are used to compete with the American companies that gave them the designs, specs, and money to initially make them.  No one see anything wrong with that?

China is the largest supplier of fake products.  How many fake designer handbag copies have they sold in the United States? 

Stupid Louis Vuitton taught a Chinese manufacturer how to make their handbags.  Behind their backs, this Chinese company was making handbags exactly the same way selling them at much lower prices using their own serial numbers.  

We made China wealthy at our expense.  So did Europe.

Greedy corporations wanting more money in their pockets moved to China, some moving there because they could no longer compete with those that did, leaving their factories empty, employees without jobs, towns rotting away because of that greed. 

The middle class, the largest segment of the population, made up of mostly factory workers, without jobs.  

This is just the tip of the iceberg of what American companies and China have been doing. 

U.S. companies have been making more money than they are lowering prices. 

Some say we have a "global economy." No, we don't, it's mostly a Chinese economy. 

Would anyone accept lower priced products from other countries or is it China they are most loyal?

Don't believe this...look it up.