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[Kitty Galore]

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@hckynutjohn wrote:

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@SeaMaiden wrote:

This will affect a lot of foods people buy sadly... The more affordable foods....

@SeaMaiden 

Yep!  And we get a lot of that wheat from?

hckynut   🇺🇸  🇺🇦

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@hckynutjohn RUSSIA !

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[Sooner]

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@Johnnyeager wrote:

The United States imports a relatively small amount of wheat grain from Canada. 

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@Johnnyeager But when the price increases elsewhere in the world the price will go up here too.

And when it goes down, it goes down here too. 

[shoekitty]

My thoughts are with  American farmers who are having a heck of time, much of increase is due to poor farmers.  They lost crops due to storms, weather. They had trouble getting help duringCovid,   production was off, as was planting.  Many are facing hardships and foreclosures.  Not to mention there are many farmers and ranchers who sent  their kids to college, they got jobs outside the family business.  That is what is happening here in california,  once the fruit bowl of the  country. Apricots, lemons, oranges, plums, nuts cherries etc.  in the last 25 years the orchards have gone, land sold for housing   What is left of some old apple produces is the went to berries and ceased with apples and cider.   The new generation doesnt want to farm.   This problem is extending to the Midwest , and so many farmers, dairymen and ranchers are quitting as costs rise.

addthis to  the the extreme weather the last few years , we are  feeling the pinch coming out of covid especially.   My 2 cents anyway.  My heart is with the farmers

[Sooner]

We raised wheat, soybeans, and cattle.  You can lose pretty much a year's income easily some years, and I can't even imagine what a few tractors, combine and trucks for harvest equipment, tilling equipment, fertilizer, and FUEL costs.  It is an absurdly cash intensive business.

Our fuel bills were huge when gas was 29 cents a gallon. I can't even think how many millions you'd have to have invested and on hand for a farm or dairy of any size.

On another note the world population would be far what we have now if it weren't for GMO grains that will grow places where they don't normally survive, or where much smaller crops were the norm.  Just saying that sometimes all the talk about non-gmo sort of worries me. . . there is good and bad potential with that, like many things.  It isn't a perfect world as far as I can see.  

[Sooner]

Just FYI I looked this up:

Most new John Deere combines for harvesting are priced from $380,000 to $480,000, said Michael Cessna, a sales representative for the Arends-Hogan-Walker (AHW) dealership east of Urbana. With add-on features, farmers might be looking at $500,000 for a combine, “but you could get up to $600,000 real easy,” Cessna said.

A tractor $30,000 to $60,000 and you'll need 2 or 3, plus the plows, discs, harrows, planters and other things to pull behind it. . . 

Old joke about the farmer that won the Irish Lottery and was asked what he would do with it.  He said he was going to farm 'til every bit of it was gone!

[TW]

Wheat prices probably go up because of the horrible weather.  Over half of the country is in deep drought.  We have fires, floods and destructive storms.  The weather has become so unpredictable that we will face food shortages.  If we do have crops we don't have the people to harvest and it gets plowed under.  They dumped thousands of gallons of Milk because they had no way to transport it.  Or was it to raise the price?  Our whole food production and transport has to change.  This whole system of having the whole system based in a few giant hubs is too dangerous.  If one link breaks it all comes to a halt.  God forbid the West Coast gets the 'Big One'.  All supply chains would come to a screeching halt.

[TW]

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@Jordan2 wrote:

What's not going up in price? Is breathing and walking still free?

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Don't give them any ideas!

[TW]

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@shoekitty wrote:

The weather, covid, flooding, freezes, shortage of farm workers have had a huge impact on cost of   food here.  We have begun  to feel the jhard impact from the covid pandemic.  The longer the pandemic lasted the more the shortages started to effect us.  Cost of food and gas didn't arise overnight,  here in California gas is 6.00-7.00@ gal   If we could buy gas for 4.75,which they say is National average ...we would be in heaven.   Gas has been rising here for 2 years  it was about 3 bux for along time, it slowly crept up   In the last week.   it shot from in the 4 dollar range to the 6 dollar plus.  Food had been rising since 2018.  Shortages started  with covid, eased a bit last fall and started  in declining after new year.  This has been coming.

here in California Govenor Newsom is going to put a measure to our congress to decrease gas prices by a temporary reduction of some existing taxes taxes on it.  Which shoukd lower price per gallon quite a bit   We will see.  It was on news today  i also read it in san Jose Mercury News.  

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It's called Capitalism and it's good.  Just not for the average Joe.  These excuses for high prices don't fly anymore after they released some of the huge profits these companies made last year. 

[Sooner]

The last list I remember states' taxes on gas were from around 4 cents to almost 60 cents a gallon.  When you really think about what a huge tax this is on many, it makes you want to ask where is it going. . . 

[Duckncover]

Taking the tax off gas, or even just lowering it, sounds like it would really help the consumer, but how will they recoup the loss of that revenue without jacking up the tax even higher in the future?