What the news leaves out. - Page 3

Icegoddess · ‎03-19-2010

@reiki604 wrote:
@Icegoddess wrote:
@on the bay wrote:
To me, whatever is reported, either those who are wondering if it is over reported or those who think it is undereported, I'll still see it as a dangerous highly contageous and potentially very deadly virus that we all need to protect ourselves from.
Meanwhile, no matter what is reported, it will not affect the virus at all as it continues to cause many deaths and continue to infect many.
So I'm not sure why it matters aside from political reasons to wonder so much about the statistics.
The reason it matters to me is that my state did not have a large one-day increase in cases as the news is implicating.
Even 1 death is 1 too many. When did human beings become negligible and used for political capital? The fact that the death rate is going up at all shows the plan in place is failing and needs to be re evaluated

@reiki604 and that is exactly what the news is wanting you to believe. However, the fact that a lot of those cases, and it is cases not deaths, were actually test results from tests taken 6 weeks ago does not indicate that the plan we have in place is failing. It just means that they are getting test results in from 6 weeks ago.

Sage04 · ‎07-10-2011

@Icegoddess wrote:
@Kachina624 wrote:
@Icegoddess The virus manifests itself in many different ways. This Broadway actor who has been so ill with it had to have a leg amputated due to effects of the virus. If someone dies of pneumonia acquired due to the virus, that should be counted as a virus death. The fact is, they wouldn't have had these conditions if they didn't test positive for the virus and have the symptoms associated with it.
@Kachina624 @bikerbabe the example given to the health expert was if someone had a car crash and died from those injuries but had tested positive for Covid 19 would they be counted as a Covid19 death and the answer was yes. In fact, there was a case in PA where the coroner confirmed that a man fell from a roof and cracked his head open, but because he had tested positive for Covid 19, he was labeled a Covid-19 death. It was not a question about someone who had a full blown case of Covid-19 dying from complications associated with it which is what you are referring to.

@Icegoddess Exactly what you just said. That´s what I was thinking.

Icegoddess · ‎03-19-2010

@Drythe wrote:
@Icegoddess wrote:
Was watching ABC News with David Muir this evening. He talked about how my state had this huge one-day jump in cases. But, what he didn't say was that number included test results from as far back as 6 weeks ago. So, it's not like we actually had a huge one-day jump. The local news did make a point of saying that this morning so at least some of us know the truth and aren't freaking out about it.

Also, one of our health experts they were interviewing yesterday confirmed that anybody who dies who has a positive Covid-19 test regardless of the primary reason for their death is counted as a Covid-19 death per CDC guidelines.
@Icegoddess

Samples to be tested for COVID19 must be sent to "sanctioned" labs. These "sanctioned" labs currently take 4 - 6 WEEKS to complete testing and return results.

When do you think these results should be reported & added to
your state numbers?

Nothing "left out" but here, seems it does not included details you would like. Maybe you could notify the news channel.

No testing = No +positive results
More testing = More +positive results

@Drythe I have no problem with test results from tests taken 4 to 6 weeks ago being reported. It's the way it's being reported without including that little tidbit so that it appears that these are all new cases from the newer faster tests which would make it seem that my state is not containing the cases when in actuality it is. We get a local daily briefing which includes our hospital CEO who says we only have about 6 Covid 19 patients currently in the hospital and they are now encouraging anybody who has symptoms to please come to the ER which was not the case a few weeks ago.

Drythe · ‎07-09-2011

@mspatmac wrote:
What ever happened to newscasters, newspapers and TV stations only reporting substantiated facts without promoting their own agendas? Just want the facts and I'll make my own decisions.

@mspatmac

In OP the numbers are real. They were reported at the time the results were received from the "sanctioned" lab. Unless the News reporter goes through every state and says, now in XX state these tests were actually taken on a, b, c, d, ... for every state, how are they supposed to say it.

I'm following my state on the state website, and they do make such notations. But, I don't expect a National News reporter to have the time to do that.

I don't see reporting test results as 'promoting a personal agenda.'

"Animals are not my whole world, but they have made my world whole" ~ Roger Caras

on the bay · ‎03-09-2010

Either way, whether reported from tests taken way before or not, It can also mean that a whole lot more people are infected than previously thought. I'm sure if everyone were tested in the US, and we got the results of how many of us had the virus, we would all be very alarmed.

I like to focus on what they are developing that will help any of us who get it-vaccines, successful and safe treatments, more ppe and masks for whoever needs it especially right there on hand! for first responders and essential workers so they do not have to worry or re-use any equipment.And contact tracing.

"If you walk the footsteps of a stranger, you'll learn things you never knew. Can you sing with all the voices of the mountains? can you paint with all the colors of the wind?"

mspatmac · ‎06-10-2015

@Spurt wrote:
@mspatmac wrote:
What ever happened to newscasters, newspapers and TV stations only reporting substantiated facts without promoting their own agendas? Just want the facts and I'll make my own decisions.
@mspatmac

I am so tired of all these media people (I wont even call them journalist)....they just seem to be promoting their own "agendas"...... Like Sgt Friday used to say, "just the facts please....."

@Spurt I don't believe/trust any of them.

Drythe · ‎07-09-2011

@Icegoddess wrote:
@Drythe wrote:
@Icegoddess wrote:
Was watching ABC News with David Muir this evening. He talked about how my state had this huge one-day jump in cases. But, what he didn't say was that number included test results from as far back as 6 weeks ago. So, it's not like we actually had a huge one-day jump. The local news did make a point of saying that this morning so at least some of us know the truth and aren't freaking out about it.

Also, one of our health experts they were interviewing yesterday confirmed that anybody who dies who has a positive Covid-19 test regardless of the primary reason for their death is counted as a Covid-19 death per CDC guidelines.
@Icegoddess

Samples to be tested for COVID19 must be sent to "sanctioned" labs. These "sanctioned" labs currently take 4 - 6 WEEKS to complete testing and return results.

When do you think these results should be reported & added to
your state numbers?

Nothing "left out" but here, seems it does not included details you would like. Maybe you could notify the news channel.

No testing = No +positive results
More testing = More +positive results
@Drythe I have no problem with test results from tests taken 4 to 6 weeks ago being reported. It's the way it's being reported without including that little tidbit so that it appears that these are all new cases from the newer faster tests which would make it seem that my state is not containing the cases when in actuality it is. We get a local daily briefing which includes our hospital CEO who says we only have about 6 Covid 19 patients currently in the hospital and they are now encouraging anybody who has symptoms to please come to the ER which was not the case a few weeks ago.

@Icegoddess

My point is that a National Newscaster is not likely to have 'tidbits" about every state to include. Imagine how long that would take. Do you want to hear 'tidbits' about my state? The news would go on forever, which it seems to anyway.

I really think it more appropriately shared in the state channels where it is of most interest. I follow my state website which gives county by county details, and information about some causes. If your state has a jump up at any time I am sorry. None of us want it.

Just my thoughts.

"Animals are not my whole world, but they have made my world whole" ~ Roger Caras

Icegoddess · ‎03-19-2010

@Drythe wrote:
@Icegoddess wrote:
@Drythe wrote:
@Icegoddess wrote:
Was watching ABC News with David Muir this evening. He talked about how my state had this huge one-day jump in cases. But, what he didn't say was that number included test results from as far back as 6 weeks ago. So, it's not like we actually had a huge one-day jump. The local news did make a point of saying that this morning so at least some of us know the truth and aren't freaking out about it.

Also, one of our health experts they were interviewing yesterday confirmed that anybody who dies who has a positive Covid-19 test regardless of the primary reason for their death is counted as a Covid-19 death per CDC guidelines.
@Icegoddess

Samples to be tested for COVID19 must be sent to "sanctioned" labs. These "sanctioned" labs currently take 4 - 6 WEEKS to complete testing and return results.

When do you think these results should be reported & added to
your state numbers?

Nothing "left out" but here, seems it does not included details you would like. Maybe you could notify the news channel.

No testing = No +positive results
More testing = More +positive results
@Drythe I have no problem with test results from tests taken 4 to 6 weeks ago being reported. It's the way it's being reported without including that little tidbit so that it appears that these are all new cases from the newer faster tests which would make it seem that my state is not containing the cases when in actuality it is. We get a local daily briefing which includes our hospital CEO who says we only have about 6 Covid 19 patients currently in the hospital and they are now encouraging anybody who has symptoms to please come to the ER which was not the case a few weeks ago.
@Icegoddess

My point is that a National Newscaster is not likely to have 'tidbits" about every state to include. Imagine how long that would take. Do you want to hear 'tidbits' about my state? The news would go on forever, which it seems to anyway.

I really think it more appropriately shared in the state channels where it is of most interest. I follow my state website which gives county by county details, and information about some causes. If your state has a jump up at any time I am sorry. None of us want it.

Just my thoughts.

@Drythe , ONLY my state was mentioned as if it was some sort of aberration or something. If they're going to do that then they should say it includes tests from 6 weeks ago. That doesn't take a lot of time.

Lucky Charm · ‎03-09-2010

@mspatmac wrote:
What ever happened to newscasters, newspapers and TV stations only reporting substantiated facts without promoting their own agendas? Just want the facts and I'll make my own decisions.

Slightly Off Topic....this morning on Good Morning America they did a wedding for a NYC nurse and her fiance a NYC policeman.

A GMA *correspondent* performed the nuptuals. No mask, the newlyweds were downwind of him and at times it didn't even look like he was 6 feet away. Even if he was, they were definately downwind of him, you could see a flag blowing in the background.

I was cringing the whole time for these two young frontline workers. I'm sure they were, too.

Why he couldn't put a mask on is beyond me. No one had a mask on except people in the cars that went by tooting their horns.

I'm sure GMA has done ~~millions of~~ stories about people not wearing masks. (Refusing)

Signed, a mask wearing American.

AuntG · ‎03-09-2010

One thing I heard on the ABC national news is that experts say it is the droplets we expel that are causing a majority of cases - touching a doorknob or a can of food at the store doesn't have as much risk as originally thought. Whew!