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01-28-2024 12:53 AM
@bells4me wrote:Not a good topic for a shopping forum.
This isn't a shopping forum. This is a discussion forum on a shopping site so it fits just fine.
01-28-2024 09:16 AM
@ThinkingOutLoud wrote:
@bells4me wrote:Not a good topic for a shopping forum.
This isn't a shopping forum. This is a discussion forum on a shopping site so it fits just fine.
@bells4me - As stated above by @ThinkingOutLoud , this is a discussion forum. The only topics not allowed are religion and politics.
01-28-2024 09:22 AM
A politics topic would be pretty interesting, lol
02-02-2024 09:44 AM
TMZ and NewsNation are reporting the below about the toxicology report out yesterday. I read the below on New York Post.
“A family member, who asked to remain anonymous, tells me cocaine, fentanyl, and THC showed up in the preliminary results,” NewsNation’s national correspondent Alex Caprariello wrote on X.
“The family source says level 10 fentanyl is enough to kill. The #KansasCity3 were at level 30.”
"Initial toxicology reports on the three Kansas City Chiefs fans found frozen and dead in a friend’s yard found cocaine, THC — and three times the amount of fentanyl that is enough to kill, according to reports.
The families of David Harrington, Clayton McGeeney and Ricky Johnson — who were found dead outside their friend Jordan Willis’ Kansas City home on Jan. 9 — confirmed to WDAF that police now had the initial reports on illicit drugs in the dead men’s systems.
Among the substances were cocaine and fentanyl, according to TMZ and NewsNation.
He later added that the information was “backed up and confirmed by a second, separate family source.”
Kansas City police have confirmed that they have been in touch with the families, according to NewsNation."
Now who brought the drugs or did they all bring something to the party.
02-02-2024 10:00 AM
There has been some speculation/innuendo about the fourth man being a well know drug supplier. Now that makes sense to me.
02-02-2024 10:06 AM
I saw earlier reports this week that one of the neighbors saw the friends bring in 30 cases of beer for the day. Not sure how much is in a case of beer, but I am assuming 12?
02-02-2024 10:44 AM
@Still Raining wrote:There has been some speculation/innuendo about the fourth man being a well know drug supplier. Now that makes sense to me.
@Still Raining There was a fifth man who left before the drug use started and has already been interviewed by the police. He may have been the supplier, not one of the 4.
02-02-2024 11:07 AM
The initial toxicology report found cocaine, fentanyl, and THC.
The fentanyl may have been mixed into the cocaine.
THC produces the 'high" in weed. THC pills are stronger.
THC pills were around in the 1960s as small yellow pills. They are not new.
If they "snorted" (did lines) with the cocaine it could have been "cut" with fentanyl.
If they smoked weed it also could have been cut with fentanyl.
The THC would probably not have been made with some fentanyl.
There initial toxicology reports are not conclusive yet. However the mix of cocaine THC, and fentanyl has been found so far. Couple any alcohol and the deadly freezing temperatures left them vulnerable to death.
So far the EXACT CAUSE OF DEATH IS NOT CONCLUSIVE.
The temperature could be the cause and the drug use secondary for causing disorientation and lack of realizing how they were in a serious situation.
These men were not children. The survivor has entered rehab. This was not their first rodeo at their ages.
The investigation is not looking at this as a homicide. They would have to prove the survivor intentionally gave drugs knowing they could die.
It is a tragedy and another warning for mixing multiple substances and especially with the rising concern regarding fentanyl.
You cannot prove the fentanyl was known to be in anything.
These men will be mourned and missed.
I do no believe for one moment the survivor caused these deaths.
02-02-2024 11:12 AM
I do no believe he is responsible either @Cakers3 . They all made their own decisions and they were very very foolish.
As far as the family member going on about his brother found in a chair instead of the ground to be something sinister, it is not. You do not have to be on the ground for hypothermia to take hold.
I do believe many if not all of the relatives will file a wrongful death suit against this man only because it was his home and he survived. Regardless if proof comes out they brought their own stashes.
So incredibly sad and did not have to happen.
02-02-2024 11:43 AM
What are their kids supposed to do now?
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