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[suzyQ3]

Thankfully, a person can make a choice as to whether to be a Disney customer.

But what about all those industries that we have to patronize? Is it morally okay for them to charge whatever they want?

I would hope that our form of capitalism is more enlightened than that.

[Tinkrbl44]

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@Porcelain wrote:

@Tinkrbl44 Each of us decides for ourselves what is excessive greed in a corporation or ourselves or another person. And we act and spend accordingly. Seems to me Disney is headed in that direction. I hope they get new leadership soon.

Of course you are free to disagree. And you may indeed understand business far better than I do. I assume we have both been involved in business during the course of our careers. And I assume we both understand the basics. And I am sure you did not intend that question to be insulting or condescending.

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@Porcelain 

There was no intention to be insulting or condescending, but I believe most people understand the basics of business and capitalism, including the law of supply and demand.  I apologize for the sarcasm.

Example ... I can create an auction on amazon for a fresh and sealed small jar of instant coffee, and ask $1,000 for it.  I can charge whatever I want, but that doesn't mean anyone will buy it.   From what I can see, Disney hasn't priced themselves out of the market yet, so people continue to watch their movies and visit their parks.   

Yes, prices have gone up on everything, so why is anyone surprised?  Like most theme parks, Disney's prices vary with peak-season and off-season variables.  See link below for discount information.   Since most theme parks are pricey, planning is always required.

From your posts I still can't tell the difference between greed and excessive greed.   Nor did you even allude to what "other responsibilities" is supposed to mean.  It would have been nice to know what you were talking about.

By the way, Disney just announced new leadership in May of this year.  

Here's the link on discounts, and there are many others that come up in searches.

https://www.tripsavvy.com/disneyland-discount-tickets-1477787

[lovesrecess]

I have two family members who work for Disney and have been there for decades...they said the issue is just not enough guests when the guidelines have to be followed for crowd sizes allowed. Having the park open for a fraction of the people who normally attend is a money-loser. Payroll has to be cut, and I think they still have not opened some parts of the park in an effort to save some $$$.

[Tinkrbl44]

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@lovesrecess wrote:
I have two family members who work for Disney and have been there for decades...they said the issue is just not enough guests when the guidelines have to be followed for crowd sizes allowed. Having the park open for a fraction of the people who normally attend is not cost is a money-loser. Payroll has to be cut, and I think they still have not opened some parts of the park in an effort to save some $$$.

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@lovesrecess 

That makes total sense.   Disney's operating costs must be staggering, just to break even.   

[Tinkrbl44]

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@suzyQ3 wrote:

Thankfully, a person can make a choice as to whether to be a Disney customer.

But what about all those industries that we have to patronize? Is it morally okay for them to charge whatever they want?

I would hope that our form of capitalism is more enlightened than that.

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@suzyQ3 

I'm not sure "morality" really has much to do with it.  The most enlightened company may not offer the best prices, so it goes back to what the consumer wants ... and is willing to pay. 

If any company charges too much, ultimately they will price themselves out of the market.  Even better, competitors will come along and offer the product at a lower price, and consumers pick the better deal.  If the pricing isn't competitive, sales drop.  (That doesn't mean anyone should expect a price that's less then break-even for the vendor.)

People complain all the time that they want to see more products made in the U.S., but if the cost is 400% higher than an identical imported item, "enlightenment" goes right out the window.

[Jdpic]

Wa Wha What????  What industries are you talk about?  

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@suzyQ3 wrote:

Thankfully, a person can make a choice as to whether to be a Disney customer.

But what about all those industries that we have to patronize? Is it morally okay for them to charge whatever they want?

I would hope that our form of capitalism is more enlightened than that.

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[suzyQ3]

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@Jdpic wrote:

Wa Wha What????  What industries are you talk about?  

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@suzyQ3 wrote:

Thankfully, a person can make a choice as to whether to be a Disney customer.

But what about all those industries that we have to patronize? Is it morally okay for them to charge whatever they want?

I would hope that our form of capitalism is more enlightened than that.

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Those whose products we need, @Jdpic 

[Tinkrbl44]

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@suzyQ3 wrote:

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@Jdpic wrote:

Wa Wha What????  What industries are you talk about?  

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@suzyQ3 wrote:

Thankfully, a person can make a choice as to whether to be a Disney customer.

But what about all those industries that we have to patronize? Is it morally okay for them to charge whatever they want?

I would hope that our form of capitalism is more enlightened than that.

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Those whose products we need, @Jdpic 

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@suzyQ3 

Huh?   What does that mean? 

 If you "need" a common product, there's almost always more than one purchase option.  I get the feeling you might mean when you have no choice ... but what, specifically, are you referring to? 

[suzyQ3]

My point is that greed does exist, purposely and continually fueled by massive consolidation the limits the consumer's choices.

I believe in a balanced system in which there are checks and balances on commerce, not unfettered. Most people are not in favor of laissez-faire capitalism when they understand the consequences.

[Porcelain]

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@suzyQ3 wrote:

My point is that greed does exist, purposely and continually fueled by massive consolidation the limits the consumer's choices.

I believe in a balanced system in which there are checks and balances on commerce, not unfettered. Most people are not in favor of laissez-faire capitalism when they understand the consequences.

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An example is price gouging. The vast majority of us consider that wrong.