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RainCityWoman · ‎06-16-2015

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Your grandchildren are lucky little ones to have you in their lives. I fear for the kids who are given an iPad, phone and ccomputer instead of a lot of human interaction.

I saw a show on PBS where parents sent their internet-addicted teens to internet bootcamp. It was frightening.

OMG @Elri AMEN!!

I went to dinner with my 12 year old niece and 13 year old nephew recently. I didn't get a hello, nor one word of conversation. Their heads were either on the tablets they have at the restaurants now or in their phones. I don't have kids but I'd like to think their phones would be in my purse when we went out to dinner with family so they could interact with the people they love with good old fashioned speaking and listening. It's just common courtesy.
@Laura14

Its just not 12 and 13 yr olds.....how about women in their 50's...When we go to lunch or dinner I had to politely ask my friends to put up their phones so we could enjoy some actual face to face conversation. And its another example of children learning this from seeing adults do it.........

Aren't all those "housewife" shows on TV just a bunch of women being horrible human beings? I hope our children have not adopted them as role models. Mark Twain used to go on rants about what he referred to as the "damned human race." And that was long, long ago.

Spurt · ‎03-20-2010

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The problem today is some parents don't have any time for the children which is really sad. You bring them into the world and then expect them to fend for themselves. Children need to learn the difference between right and wrong, respect, not to bully other kids and call them names. Some of these youngsters today and even the ones 18 thru early 20's are so disrespectful and could care less about anything. None of them know how to count change back in the retail store. It's good to use your mind before you end up losing it later in life.

@Katcat1

I think its a more of they don't TAKE THE TIME for their children, in the past parents would sacrifice and put their children first....now it seems that parents think about themselves and have an "all about ME" attitude.....They leave the parenting up to the schools, youth leagues/clubs, or churches etc.........

One of the guys on ESPN was telling how kids dont know math....he went to a fast food place and gave the kid a $10 bill....the computers were down and the kid didnt know how ot make change....so the sports guy had to walk the kid through it.............SAD!

And since technology does their thinking for them....no need to look anything up....Alexa is there to help! .....So there is little imagination and creativity....you can tell it by commercials, movies, TV shows etc...it seems to be all the same plots or something "borrowed" from something done long ago....

Animals are reliable, full of love, true in their affections, grateful. Difficult standards for people to live up to.”

Noel7 · ‎03-09-2010

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Nothing, no device takes the place of being with family,and talking ,laughing ,sharing.

It sure helps @goldensrbest DH's family lived in Norway for two years recently and we kept in touch with daily Instagram photos and comments. They are my daughter's age and she texted with them all the time.

We couldn't have done that without a device.

bonnielu · ‎03-11-2010

@Annabellethecat66 I do go dancin' and the boots are within easy reach. As for what they are learning.... I just hope they are not reading the news or watching TV. What horrible role models they have out there.... everywhere. I just hope when I go from place to place on a daily basis I can continue to meet nice people who care about each other. My father alway told me.. PUT PEOPLE FIRST (NOT THINGS) AND YOU WILL HAVE A HAPPY LIFE. You and I are the same age and our world seemed so much more civil.

Spurt · ‎03-20-2010

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THIS is a form of talking. Don't others see that? We have real conversations, come across real people we love to converse with.

If you don't think that's possible, go look at the almost 10 page conversation on Cheddar Man. It's polite, serious, funny, informative and so interesting because so many people shared in conversing.

@Noel7

But Blogs are considered old fashioned,(and something the old folks"use). You are limited on Twitter to a very limited number of characters not much of a chance to converse there, and it seems on Facebook there is little conversation, mostly photos and people bragging what they did, are doing, or going to do....Instagram is about sharing photos/videos so thats a one sided "conversation"...............

Animals are reliable, full of love, true in their affections, grateful. Difficult standards for people to live up to.”

Trinity11 · ‎11-16-2014

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I have grown to hate technology. The more "advanced" technology we get, the less humanity we will have.

In the not so distant future, robots will take care of our homes and gardens, they already drive our cars (I will never trust that). Everything will be automated and people will live in a state of virtual reality with nothing to do but push buttons.

I recently saw a program on TV where robotic surgery controlled by doctors thousands of miles away are already being tested. That's pretty scary.
I love technology. Millions of people are helped everyday by new medical devices that were only a dream years ago. We now have blood glucose machines that you can tell in seconds what your numbers are. Years ago it was just a guessing game. Heart disease is an area of medicine where new life saving technology will prolong lives only years ago would have been lost..

@LilacTree...remember the 1964 World's Fair? Everyone thought by now we would be living like the Jetson's.
@Trinity11
I'm glad for medical advances, Trin. But the robotic nature and artificial intelligence of the future will eventually take our humanity away. It will be possible to communicate with each other with our brains . . . we won't even need a device. In fact, they will be able to create robots with implanted human brains. That used to be science fiction . . . no longer.
@LilacTree...I guess I sound like Scarlett O'Hara but I will worry about that another day. LOL. In all sincerity I do not believe we will ever lose our humanity. And like Noel, I believe we are responsible as parents and grandparents to teach our children responsibility and manners. Also there are many professions where a robot would never do.
@Trinity11
Pay no attention to me . . . I am old and my days are numbered. I don't feel as though this is my world anymore in many ways, including the subject of this thread . . . my granddaughters come over, plop down on the sofa and spend the whole time "visiting" with their noses into their phones. I've mentioned it to my daughter, but she's used to it and ignores it and just says "that's how they all are."

The only time they have to put their phones down is when we are eating. So they eat really fast, and excuse themselves to go back to their phones. I guess I should consider myself lucky that they give me a hug when they leave. I love them and they love me. It has nothing to do with that . . . I consider it an addiction.

@LilacTree....engage them in conversation. Find out what is happening in their lives. Ask about their lives. All kids love talking about themselves. I also try and steer the conversation away from health issues.

I seriously doubt if they knew how you felt about phones, they wouldn't cut back on their usage in your home.

As far as your days being numbered...think positively.

Laura14 · ‎06-09-2014

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I am a firm believer that social media has removed some of the reluctance to be mean. It's that anonymity that emboldens people. On the other hand, social media has enabled adults and younger people to say things they wouldn't say face to face, even when their identity is known. Yes, it has made things worse, but as a 9th grade teacher who taught pre social media and post social media, I will say that I observed really mean behavior, sometimes anonymous, sometiimes not in the young teens throughout my 30 year career. Nasty notes stuck in lockers anonymously. Name calling written on the front of lockers. Outright ostracizing and shunning blatantly displayed. No attempts at times to even camouflage the disrespect. I can't even count how many times I had to have private conversations as to the behavior and insensitivity displayed by iindividual students. They were all adept at finding a kid's weakeness or afflictions and going in for the kill. It would become a pecking contest. I even observed developmentally disabled students being exploited for someone else's entertainment. I worked with counselors and principals to deal with the bullies, but most often they reverted to that behavior anyway. Either that, or they blamed the person being bullied. Is this just inherent in human nature?

@RainCityWoman Nope. Manners are taught and so is common courtesy (or it used to be) which is, in my opinion, the biggest source of the problem here.

Noel7 · ‎03-09-2010

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THIS is a form of talking. Don't others see that? We have real conversations, come across real people we love to converse with.

If you don't think that's possible, go look at the almost 10 page conversation on Cheddar Man. It's polite, serious, funny, informative and so interesting because so many people shared in conversing.
@Noel7

But Blogs are considered old fashioned,(and something the ld folks" use. You are limited on Twitter to a very limited number of characters not much of a chance to converse there, and it seems on Facebook there is little conversation, mostly photos and people bragging what they did, are doing, or going to do....Instagram is about sharing photos/videos so thats a one sided "conversation"...............

@Spurt

I don't care what other people consider blogs, most of us enjoy it here. I am on Twitter and they recently increased the space allowed to say what you want. Several of my daughter's friends follow me so I get in on their conversations sometimes. I'm not on Facebook but I am on Instagram and you CAN talk to each other there. Some people have really long comments, others are shorter. DH's family talks to me often by way of Instagram.

If you want to see LONG comments and many on Instagram, check Humans Of New York on Instagram. It nice to follow HofNY, really interesting people and their stories.

Trinity11 · ‎11-16-2014

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The problem today is some parents don't have any time for the children which is really sad. You bring them into the world and then expect them to fend for themselves. Children need to learn the difference between right and wrong, respect, not to bully other kids and call them names. Some of these youngsters today and even the ones 18 thru early 20's are so disrespectful and could care less about anything. None of them know how to count change back in the retail store. It's good to use your mind before you end up losing it later in life.
@Katcat1

I think its a more of they don't TAKE THE TIME for their children, in the past parents would sacrifice and put their children first....now it seems that parents think about themselves and have an "all about ME" attitude.....They leave the parenting up to the schools, youth leagues/clubs, or churches etc.........

One of the guys on ESPN was telling how kids dont know math....he went to a fast food place and gave the kid a $10 bill....the computers were down and the kid didnt know how ot make change....so the sports guy had to walk the kid through it.............SAD!

And since technology does their thinking for them....no need to look anything up....Alexa is there to help! .....So there is little imagination and creativity....you can tell it by commercials, movies, TV shows etc...it seems to be all the same plots or something "borrowed" from something done long ago....

I never saw a lot of sacrificing back in the 50's. Alcoholism, child abuse, all swept under the rug. At least today, kids know there is help out there. Sure, there were interested parents but there were plenty of all about me parents then too.

My kids and friends knew math. In my grandson's pre-school he is taught math. He understands at 5 how to make change. There is no one size fits all regarding kids back in the day nor kids today....

LilacTree · ‎03-25-2012

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I have grown to hate technology. The more "advanced" technology we get, the less humanity we will have.

In the not so distant future, robots will take care of our homes and gardens, they already drive our cars (I will never trust that). Everything will be automated and people will live in a state of virtual reality with nothing to do but push buttons.

I recently saw a program on TV where robotic surgery controlled by doctors thousands of miles away are already being tested. That's pretty scary.
I love technology. Millions of people are helped everyday by new medical devices that were only a dream years ago. We now have blood glucose machines that you can tell in seconds what your numbers are. Years ago it was just a guessing game. Heart disease is an area of medicine where new life saving technology will prolong lives only years ago would have been lost..

@LilacTree...remember the 1964 World's Fair? Everyone thought by now we would be living like the Jetson's.
@Trinity11
I'm glad for medical advances, Trin. But the robotic nature and artificial intelligence of the future will eventually take our humanity away. It will be possible to communicate with each other with our brains . . . we won't even need a device. In fact, they will be able to create robots with implanted human brains. That used to be science fiction . . . no longer.
@LilacTree...I guess I sound like Scarlett O'Hara but I will worry about that another day. LOL. In all sincerity I do not believe we will ever lose our humanity. And like Noel, I believe we are responsible as parents and grandparents to teach our children responsibility and manners. Also there are many professions where a robot would never do.
@Trinity11
Pay no attention to me . . . I am old and my days are numbered. I don't feel as though this is my world anymore in many ways, including the subject of this thread . . . my granddaughters come over, plop down on the sofa and spend the whole time "visiting" with their noses into their phones. I've mentioned it to my daughter, but she's used to it and ignores it and just says "that's how they all are."

The only time they have to put their phones down is when we are eating. So they eat really fast, and excuse themselves to go back to their phones. I guess I should consider myself lucky that they give me a hug when they leave. I love them and they love me. It has nothing to do with that . . . I consider it an addiction.
@LilacTree....engage them in conversation. Find out what is happening in their lives. Ask about their lives. All kids love talking about themselves. I also try and steer the conversation away from health issues.

I seriously doubt if they knew how you felt about phones, they wouldn't cut back on their usage in your home.

As far as your days being numbered...think positively.

@Trinity11

I do that all the time. I also never talk about my health, but it's obvious to them that I am disabled and I can't help that. They know how I feel about the phones. They will sometimes talk for a few minutes. But their attention is taken away very quickly by an incoming "whatever."

It's no big deal, I shouldn't have brought it up.

As to my longevity, maybe I'll post in wellness for that. Don't want to bring that here.

Formerly Ford1224
We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented. Elie Wiesel 1986