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11-18-2015 06:05 PM - edited 11-18-2015 06:06 PM
@occasionalrain wrote:As to domestic abusers, if they had a criminal record they would be denied a permit. As to lists, it's unconstitutional to deny rights to people who have no record, have done nothing wrong but have turned up on an arbitrary, subjective list perhaps because of whom they know, where they have traveled, or who their relatives happen to be.
I just had to repeat your post...
I hope everyone reads it VERY carefully.
Thank you for your honest and frank assessment of your position.
11-18-2015 06:15 PM
@soxfan, I wasn't wrong at all, that's why you came back, because you knew I was correct. ![]()
11-18-2015 06:17 PM
@foundinlv wrote:BTW.....the person that blew up a police dog in France was a woman and she was wearing a burka where she was concealing her suicide vest.
And she first stood in the window screaming, "Help me!" so as to lure as many policemen as possible to their certain deaths. Fortunately, they were terrorist savvy and didn't fall for it.
11-18-2015 06:17 PM
In the news today, a Syrian refugee family has been waiting since 2012 to relocate to the USA and they were supposed to go to Indiana, now they are going to be relocated to Connecticut.
The vetting is a long and arduous process.
Mayor De Blasio blasted Gov. of NJ Christie about his comment of specifically saying he did not think it was appropriate for small children to be brought in.
Dave Ross of CBS Newsradio 88 just had a commentary about this:
http://mynorthwest.com/813/2850318/History-proves-it-is-normal-for-Americans-to-be-leery-of-refugees
11-18-2015 06:18 PM
@occasionalrain wrote:As to domestic abusers, if they had a criminal record they would be denied a permit. As to lists, it's unconstitutional to deny rights to people who have no record, have done nothing wrong but have turned up on an arbitrary, subjective list perhaps because of whom they know, where they have traveled, or who their relatives happen to be.
@occasionalrain One might assume that but a few States don't believe this.
11-18-2015 06:20 PM
@Lovethesea wrote:
@MyGirlsMom wrote:
The refugees are heavily vetted - some people are receiving incorrect information.
Not true!! The media states that they are not vetted at all--that there is no background information on them and that we do not have a relationship with their country that would provide such information if it were documented. Where did you get information that they are "heavily vetted"?
Not only the media are saying this, also the head of the FBI and Homeland Security. Syria has NO records to share with us.
11-18-2015 06:20 PM
here's what the experts have to say about the difficulties of this vetting process - Comey/Clapper etc:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/federal-eye/wp/2015/11/17/senior-obama-officials-have-warned-of-...
11-18-2015 06:23 PM
@MaggieMack wrote:
@Lovethesea wrote:
@MyGirlsMom wrote:
The refugees are heavily vetted - some people are receiving incorrect information.
Not true!! The media states that they are not vetted at all--that there is no background information on them and that we do not have a relationship with their country that would provide such information if it were documented. Where did you get information that they are "heavily vetted"?
Not only the media are saying this, also the head of the FBI and Homeland Security. Syria has NO records to share with us.
Good grief! What a bunch of baloney!
11-18-2015 06:26 PM
@MyGirlsMom wrote:
@occasionalrain wrote:As to domestic abusers, if they had a criminal record they would be denied a permit. As to lists, it's unconstitutional to deny rights to people who have no record, have done nothing wrong but have turned up on an arbitrary, subjective list perhaps because of whom they know, where they have traveled, or who their relatives happen to be.
@occasionalrain One might assume that but a few States don't believe this.
You seem to not realize that the the US has a National instant background check system. It's not run or determined by the individual states, it's run by the federal government. Either you pass, or you don't. Concealed carry permits are granted by individual states though.
11-18-2015 06:28 PM
@MyGirlsMom wrote:
@MaggieMack wrote:
@Lovethesea wrote:
@MyGirlsMom wrote:
The refugees are heavily vetted - some people are receiving incorrect information.
Not true!! The media states that they are not vetted at all--that there is no background information on them and that we do not have a relationship with their country that would provide such information if it were documented. Where did you get information that they are "heavily vetted"?
Not only the media are saying this, also the head of the FBI and Homeland Security. Syria has NO records to share with us.
Good grief! What a bunch of baloney!
@MyGirlsMom Still awaiting your source(s)...
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