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[MomOf4]

On 4/19/2014 azterry! said:

On 4/19/2014 MomOf4 said:

4/19/2014 azterry! said:

I was surprised to see the thread disappear too.

Who went rogue?

Nobody did Terry. Maybe webbie thought "Common Core" was controversial but it was an intelligent conversation and nobody was upset with anybody.

I was just kidding, MomOf4.

I thought the entire discussion was really interesting.

I know Terry. I was really trying to understand what the heck could have caused it to be poofed.

There wasn't one "edit" so it had to be a decision by webbie. Go figure!!

[kdgn]

Tansy, from the article I read it is one method used to show the kids the concept behind subtraction but it is not the only method. And it does not have to be the only method. The "old" way is also used.

I've been out of the loop where other grade levels are concerned and without speaking to a teacher at that grade level, or seeing the teacher's manual to determine what led up to that formula, I can only speculate. What's really funny is that a kid would probably be able to explain to an adult exactly what was going on. And that is the whole point....

[NoelSeven]

It bothers me that they said "Old Fashion".

Sure, it could be used correctly, but I'm so used to the "old fashioned" way.

[dooBdoo]

I didn't save my response on the other thread, but here's the math teacher's article again:

About That ‘Common Core’ Math Problem Making the Rounds on Facebook…

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2014/03/07/about-that-common-core-math-problem-making-...

[dooBdoo]

kdgn, Excellent posts! Thanks for your clear explanations.

[MomOf4]

Thanks again dooBdoo!!

[kdgn]

dooBdoo- I worked on those Standards as the kdgn rep for my district years and years ago. This is honestly nothing new if districts adopted them as they were supposed to do in my State. But I also know not all districts participated or got all teachers on board. I volunteered in a kindergarten classroom the first year after retirement. Different district, different city. The teacher I was assigned had previously taught first grade and had no idea what was expected of the kids. It didn't help that no classroom had a particular set of texts either. I asked her where her copy of the standards were. She had no idea what I was talking about. Her school/district was a little behind I'd say. I didn't last long....

You know, not only is it a boon for the parents (and students) to know exactly what they are expected to learn that year, it's a definite bonus for teachers who are teaching a grade level for the first time.

[garmer]

Does anybody know what the ""criss cross method"" of multiplication is? Can't find it anywhere. (third grade homework)

[tansy]

Try google, gamer. Several sites pop up, including videos.

[Disneylandfan]

The idea behind Common Core is that all states would have the same standards so when district/school comparisons are made they are based on the same criteria.

For example, in past years California and New York had some of the most difficult standards. So when test scores were compared to other states it wasn't an equal comparison.

Now theoretically all states would be teaching the same set of standards so everyone is on the same playing field.

As I stated on the other thread if students are learning what the representation of addition and subtraction mean then the way it's been done for forever is perfectly acceptable. The link that was posted focused on mental math,as stated on how to figure out change, which is different. Can mental math procedures be used on a written math problem, of course, but it usually isn't the most efficient way to arrive at the correct answer.