Visiting Denver For The First Time and Well....Sho... - Page 2

Tyak · ‎01-26-2013

@patbz wrote:
DH has a medical MJ card but it was still a surprise when we last visited Law Vegas. There are many huge billboards advertising MJ and now there is Planet 13, the largest MJ store in the country. It's all good, as far as I'm concerned but why are many of the hotels now charging for parking (even if you are staying overnight)? Supposedly it's to help defray the cost of their new stadium; I'd guess that taxes on MJ would easily cover those costs.

The casino/hotels here in Vegas are charging for everything under the sun that they can get away with because of GREED. Plain and simple. (The cost to help fund the new football stadium is such a small % that it's miniscule.)

Annabellethecat66 · ‎03-12-2010

As with every single thing in life, there is good and there is ....well...bad (plain and simple...bad).

One of those good/bad things would be capitalism. People (these days, it seems) can charge anything they want for ....anything.

I am thinking about those little pieces of paper that tell a diabetic their glucose level. The cost of those little things is prohibitive....unbelievable for what they are!

As of July 2018 more than 100 million Americans have Diabetes or pre-diabetes!

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2017/p0718-diabetes-report.html

Those statistics are probably underestimated. Without the insulin (and the tabs to gauge glucose levels) a person with diabetes would die..plain and simple, they'd die.

Yet the cost of the insulin, needles and especially the 'tabs' keep going up and up and (well, you get it).

So, as someone who lives with constant pain (and has since at least 2003), I can tell you that according to ALL of the Drs I've gone to, Pot for medicinal purposes does very little to help.

I've asked so many Drs who specialize in my specific problem about pot use for the pain and my Drs all have looked at me and said, (paraphrasing), "When was the last time someone was given pot to ease or quell pain after an operation? Contrary to what you hear and read, it does not rid (or even in most cases) help someone to be able to function who is in severe pain.

Anyway, I started this post and didn't mean for it be a soap box about the cost of medicine or the foible argument for using pot for pain. I know it helps cancer patients in many good ways (appetite, etc), I know derivatives of it can help people with seizures. There are probably many more way it can help humans.

But if you want to think of it as mentioned above, you must also think of it as a medicine or drug. As we've learned with other things that started out being used for recreation, the two do not go together.

I never hear anyone mention what putting this carcinogens into one's lungs does to the lungs. Nowhere have I heard this discussed.

We saw what cigarettes did to an entire generation (Baby Boomers and those before the Boomers).

Now we are about to see how pot can and probably will do as much (if not more) to the Millennials and those after.

Why can't humans ever learn from their mistakes?

Snowpuppy · ‎03-09-2010

One thing legalization will do is further the divide between the haves and the have nots.

If it's recreational, then the winners are the taxing authorities and the shops. The losers will be those who further empty their pockets on the latest I Gotta Have Some.

While not buying it won't make you rich, buying it will help you have less cash in your pockets.

Sooner · ‎03-10-2010

Oklahoma is now a stoner's dream as of the last election. We are growing, selling, promoting, etc. In some confused way pot is now "Okie" Dokie and we just raised the speed limit on Turnpikes to 80. Go figure. I'm stunned.

So texters and other "distracteds" (pot heads) can now go 80 from OKC to Tulsa. I'd be terrified to be on that road now.

stevieb · ‎03-10-2010

I frankly wasn't clear on what this thread was about... It seemed to veer in so many directions: recreational pot use, medicinal pot use, the plight of the homeless, the state of the city of Denver, the cost of parking and on and on and on... If the focus is on the use of pot, for whatever reason, my perspective is that it should be an individual choice. It can be taxed and regulated, but no one should decide for anyone else what they choose to do or not choose to do.

In my pantry with my cupcakes...

Burnsite · ‎03-10-2010

I was in Denver several weeks ago, at a downtown hotel. I love the city, but what struck me this time were the number of homeless people sleeping on the sidewalks. It was cold still.

I didn't see any cannabis stores.

Denver's homeless looked mostly like runaway teens and perhaps younger vets. I don't usually stay downtown, so perhaps this is nothing new. I wish that our "safety nets" worked more effectively.

SilleeMee · ‎05-22-2016

Denver is spiking in population. It's a very attractive place to live right now. Unfortunately with the increase in population there is also a spike in the homeless population, too.

According to the US Census Colorado is the second-fastest growing state.

stevieb · ‎03-10-2010

@SilleeMee wrote:
Denver is spiking in population. It's a very attractive place to live right now. Unfortunately with the increase in population there is also a spike in the homeless population, too.

According to the US Census Colorado is the second-fastest growing state.

And while it's unlikely all that growth is due to Colorado being perceived as socially liberal and legalized medicinal and recreational pot use, one would have to suspect these are all factors... Maybe some of the more reactionary states intent on limiting their citizen's options and meanwhile taxing them into oblvion, while offering limited services, hence encouraging them to move elsewhere, might take a lesson... Yes, Virginia, I'm talking about you, among others...

In my pantry with my cupcakes...

Sooner · ‎03-10-2010

@stevieb wrote:
I frankly wasn't clear on what this thread was about... It seemed to veer in so many directions: recreational pot use, medicinal pot use, the plight of the homeless, the state of the city of Denver, the cost of parking and on and on and on... If the focus is on the use of pot, for whatever reason, my perspective is that it should be an individual choice. It can be taxed and regulated, but no one should decide for anyone else what they choose to do or not choose to do.

@stevieb So are we to just do away with laws? I believe we should have laws that are enforced, which lately seems to be not the case many times.

proudlyfromNJ · ‎05-01-2010

@Sooner wrote:
@stevieb wrote:
I frankly wasn't clear on what this thread was about... It seemed to veer in so many directions: recreational pot use, medicinal pot use, the plight of the homeless, the state of the city of Denver, the cost of parking and on and on and on... If the focus is on the use of pot, for whatever reason, my perspective is that it should be an individual choice. It can be taxed and regulated, but no one should decide for anyone else what they choose to do or not choose to do.
@stevieb So are we to just do away with laws? I believe we should have laws that are enforced, which lately seems to be not the case many times.

@Sooner. This has nothing to do with Denver but on the California thread people don’t want to live there because of too many laws! So no answers I guess.