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06-04-2014 01:49 PM
On 6/4/2014 glb613 said:On 6/4/2014 occasional rain said:This is a slippery slope. Now it's vaccinations, what will it be next?
So these children refused health care will end up in emergency rooms when they get sick. If it turns out the child has a life threatening disease that should have been discovered and treated sooner by his pediatrician, the refusing pediatrician will be sued for malpractice.
That's nonsense. A doctor has the right to remove you from his/her practice for noncompliance. Not getting vaccinated is considered noncompliance. You have the option of seeing another doctor who doesn't have the same rules.
So how about for continuing to smoke - or drinking to excess - or overeating - etc.
Should doctors be able to refuse to continue to see you for those actual behaviors known to cause health problems?
06-04-2014 01:52 PM
On 6/4/2014 glb613 said:I don't think the letter is about school. It's about being a patient without the vaccines. Those who refuse will no longer be patients.
BINGO!!
06-04-2014 01:53 PM
On 6/4/2014 Dagna said:On 6/4/2014 glb613 said:On 6/4/2014 occasional rain said:This is a slippery slope. Now it's vaccinations, what will it be next?
So these children refused health care will end up in emergency rooms when they get sick. If it turns out the child has a life threatening disease that should have been discovered and treated sooner by his pediatrician, the refusing pediatrician will be sued for malpractice.
That's nonsense. A doctor has the right to remove you from his/her practice for noncompliance. Not getting vaccinated is considered noncompliance. You have the option of seeing another doctor who doesn't have the same rules.
So how about for continuing to smoke - or drinking to excess - or overeating - etc.
Should doctors be able to refuse to continue to see you for those actual behaviors known to cause health problems?
It's no where in the same category! But there are doctors who do drop their patients for those behaviours.
06-04-2014 01:57 PM
On 6/4/2014 Dagna said:The problem is not necessarily the child who has not been vaccinated, per se, but rather the havoc one prodromal chicken pox patient could wreak on a waiting room full of such.... An alcoholic or smoking patient lacks the ability to infect others .... Their non compliance is only SELF destructive....On 6/4/2014 glb613 said:On 6/4/2014 occasional rain said:This is a slippery slope. Now it's vaccinations, what will it be next?
So these children refused health care will end up in emergency rooms when they get sick. If it turns out the child has a life threatening disease that should have been discovered and treated sooner by his pediatrician, the refusing pediatrician will be sued for malpractice.
That's nonsense. A doctor has the right to remove you from his/her practice for noncompliance. Not getting vaccinated is considered noncompliance. You have the option of seeing another doctor who doesn't have the same rules.
So how about for continuing to smoke - or drinking to excess - or overeating - etc.
Should doctors be able to refuse to continue to see you for those actual behaviors known to cause health problems?
06-04-2014 02:01 PM
On 6/4/2014 occasional rain said:This is a slippery slope. Now it's vaccinations, what will it be next?
So these children refused health care will end up in emergency rooms when they get sick. If it turns out the child has a life threatening disease that should have been discovered and treated sooner by his pediatrician, the refusing pediatrician will be sued for malpractice.
Nope, the children are NOT refused health care...only by that one pediatrician. They can always go to another pediatrician who will treat them without their vaccinations. But hopefully those will become fewer and fewer as well.
If the kid has a life-threatening disease, don't you think the pediatrician already knows and is treating it?? And, if the kid gets sick later, the refusing pediatrician can't be sued because he/she already dropped them as a patient.
Really....trying to find loopholes to find the pediatricians at fault for any possible thing that might happen to an unvaccinated child is preposterous. Put the fault and blame where it REALLY belongs: right at the feet of the parents. Doctors are getting tired of these dummies triggering unnecessary outbreaks and life-threatening illnesses in their other patients.
06-04-2014 02:02 PM
On 6/4/2014 stilltamn8r said: The problem is not necessarily the child who has not been vaccinated, per se, but rather the havoc one prodromal chicken pox patient could wreak on a waiting room full of such.... An alcoholic or smoking patient lacks the ability to infect others .... Their non compliance is only SELF destructive....
Right. The letter specifically stated they were adopting the policy because it put other people and patients in their office at risk. It wasn't like they just wanted to punish the non-vaxers for their stupidity.
06-04-2014 02:06 PM
On 6/4/2014 jackthebear said:ITA
and probably just one more thing to deal with day to day in a busy practice, good for them.
It must be infuriating for them because it's so avoidable.
06-04-2014 02:08 PM
06-04-2014 02:09 PM
On 6/4/2014 Dagna said:On 6/4/2014 glb613 said:On 6/4/2014 occasional rain said:This is a slippery slope. Now it's vaccinations, what will it be next?
So these children refused health care will end up in emergency rooms when they get sick. If it turns out the child has a life threatening disease that should have been discovered and treated sooner by his pediatrician, the refusing pediatrician will be sued for malpractice.
That's nonsense. A doctor has the right to remove you from his/her practice for noncompliance. Not getting vaccinated is considered noncompliance. You have the option of seeing another doctor who doesn't have the same rules.
So how about for continuing to smoke - or drinking to excess - or overeating - etc.
Should doctors be able to refuse to continue to see you for those actual behaviors known to cause health problems?
YES...they can and they should be able to drop you if you as their patient are not complying with their health directives. You are nothing but a waste of their time at that point. If you are suffering with a smoking-related or alcohol-related disease that they are currently treating, and they tell you to quit, and you don't, then you are non-compliant and could/should be terminated from their care.
No different from a patient who refuses to take the doctor-prescribed drugs, or abuses them. Or takes them mixed with other drugs when told not to. Any and all of these actions are considered non-compliant and I wouldn't blame the doctor for dumping that patient.
06-04-2014 02:14 PM
On 6/4/2014 wookie said: My brother got brain encephalitis after having chicken pox. He almost died.
So did my little sister, who had to be hospitalized. Her head hurt so badly she laid with her back to the door and she never stirred. She was in there for two weeks.
I don't blame this doctor one bit. When we had them, we had no choice to receive a vaccine, because there wasn't one. There wasn't one when my children were small, either, or they would have been vaccinated just like they were for measles, mumps and rubella.
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