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04-10-2017 06:09 PM
If the Police tells you to get up & leave, you get up & leave.
If you don't, you are a threat to others on that flight.
Refusing to leave would be suspicious behavior.
I'm surprised the passenger wasn't arrested for
failing to comply.
04-10-2017 06:19 PM
@Trinity11 wrote:
@Noel7 wrote:
@Trinity11 wrote:There was video of him becoming uncooperative physically before he was removed from his seat, kicking and screaming. Under no circumstances should there have been physical removal of him through the aisle of the plane. The airline will need to re-train their personnel. He was harmed and I suspect he will sue the airline. In this day and age, it is amazing that the airline personnel did not realize the ramifications for their actions towards this man. Brutality should never be acceptable towards a customer.
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Brutality is becoming a standard method of response, even in front of children.
And for this? All because four employees wanted to be on that flight?
Disgusting and inhumane.
It was disgraceful and I saw the video of him becoming upset when asked to leave. He clearly was not well and brute force was used to remove him. It was inhumane and I suspect it will do a lot of harm to the reputation of the airline....and rightfully so.
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I agree, and we don't know his back story. Obviously he is not a young well built man, someone to fear. You are right, he could have been ill or confused.
People who think it should be as simple as following orders should ask themselves if they would approve of that kind of treatment for their father. Or approve of it happening in front of their young grandchildren.
04-10-2017 06:23 PM
@sidsmom wrote:If the Police tells you to get up & leave, you get up & leave.
If you don't, you are a threat to others on that flight.
Refusing to leave would be suspicious behavior.
I'm surprised the passenger wasn't arrested for
failing to comply.
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We are not talking about someone who presents as a terrorist. It would only be suspicious in an authoritarian mileau.
04-10-2017 06:23 PM
"Appalling" is the only word I can think of when it comes to this incident. I was particularly interested in this highly unfortunate outcome of a call for volunteers because just a week and a half ago, I was scheduled for a United Airlines return flight from Las Vegas to Dulles International Airport. Unlike my departure flights, which were Dulles to Denver and Denver to Las Vegas, there were announced requests/pleas for four volunteers to give to give up their seats for, at first, $250 off their next United flight and an overnight at the South Point Hotel and Casino (plus free transpo to and fro). The announcements started well before the official lining up for boarding of the five groups.
There were no takers, and the ante was upped to $300, $350 and then, finally, $400 off the next ticket. The airline must have had some success because the announcements for volunteers ceased. The strange thing is that later, I noticed at least one empty seat on the plane.
For some reason, I was on alert for difficult passengers this trip but had a pleasant voyage both ways.
As for this poor man who was forcibly dragged from his seat, what a black mark on United's PR. How do you ever erase what we heard and saw on the video? As for the man's acting strangely, if someone grabbed me off a plane while my luggage remained on board, I am certain I would be described as a frantic wild woman. This just stinks...
04-10-2017 06:24 PM
I'm sure the way the airlines backed off this event by issuing an apology, they knew procedures were not done the way they should have been
We don't even know if the man speaks English very well, or really nothing about him. They let him back on the plane which shows they felt he wasn't someone who would harm other people.
I hope he is OK
04-10-2017 06:25 PM
It's amazing what some people tell themselves in order to support brutality.
04-10-2017 06:35 PM
04-10-2017 06:36 PM
@sidsmom wrote:
@Plaid Pants2 wrote:Airline employees may be on their way to their home airport to go to work.
We have flight crews fly out of where I work all the time, and they have to get to their "home" airport.
That's a good point.
Question, could there be a delayed flight at the "home" airport just for the sole reason the flight crew is on another flight to their "home" airport?
Meaning...these 4 'volunteers' were delaying 200+ passengers on the "home" end. Could that be the case?
My eyes can't believe what they're reading - - - that 4 volunteers [alone] WERE DELAYING 200+ PASSENGERS ON THE HOME END.
Did we all miss something here? So, all the blame for this entire hullabaloo has been ofted onto the passengers? Give us a break, not United.
04-10-2017 06:36 PM
@Noel7 wrote:
@sidsmom wrote:If the Police tells you to get up & leave, you get up & leave.
If you don't, you are a threat to others on that flight.
Refusing to leave would be suspicious behavior.
I'm surprised the passenger wasn't arrested for
failing to comply.
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We are not talking about someone who presents as a terrorist. It would only be suspicious in an authoritarian mileau.
Obnoxious drunks aren't presenting themselves as terrorists,
but yet they are kicked off flights.
Yes, this man wasn't obnoxious, but he was using the phrase
'kill me', which I would view as suspicious behavior.
As a bystander, I wouldn't want someone like that on my
2hr flight. If he's acting in this way...with police...he's
capable of doing much, much worse while in the air.
04-10-2017 06:38 PM - edited 04-10-2017 06:40 PM
@sunshine45 wrote:
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Thank you @sunshine45
The man was body slammed and is 69 years old.
The airport cop who did it has been suspended.
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