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@Sooner wrote:

@On It wrote:

United Healthcare has some big merger in the works that is going to give them a great deal more power and control. I do not know the details, but I recall reading that the merger was thought to be problematic.

 

In the meantime I was forced by the Teacher Retirement System of Texas to go on a United Healthcare Medicare Advantage program. When I first retired I had traditional Medicare and Aetna as a supplement. Then we received a letter saying that we would be using a Humana Medicare Advantage program. Any retiree who withdrew to maintain their independent Medicare could not rejoin the TRS retirement insurance plan. Last year we were shifted to United Healthcare Advantage.

 

As part of being a teacher in Texas in my younger days, we were promised we would be provided healthcare by the state if our school district did not offer it. As retired teachers TRS was to continue offering insurance coverage. I am afraid to withdraw from the program in case Medicare is defunded. TRS is supposed to pick up our coverage. Whether they will or not is another matter. This is frightening.

 

I much preferred having Medicare with a supplemental policy.


@On It Same thing here in Oklahoma.  Boy did people in education get the raw deal.  Wow!  I have a friend in the same boat you are and she is so so angry.  


I question the legality of all of these mergers and forced health insurance policies.  Sure seems we have a health insurance Maffia. 

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@Spurt wrote:

@TW wrote:

I just got a letter from the only comprehensive Medical Center in our State that has  a level 1 Trauma Unit.  United has asked them to reduce their fees over 40%.  They are trying to negotiate a new contract but if they are not successful they will no longer have United as 'In Network' and costs for patients will increase dramatically.  Specifically Medicare Advantage was mentioned.  So Buyer beware.  What really makes me mad is the fact that United spends Millions on TV Commercials yet asks Hospitals for that reduction during a Pandemic?  The letter also mentioned the huge profits United made last year.  It's disgusting that as a patient we are at the mercy of these greedy insurance companies.  Time for patients to speak up.  I am sure if they are dropped as an insurance provider they would come to their senses.  I am so sick of these money grabbers determening life or death in this country.  The only reason they get away with this is because people don't speak up.


@TW 

 

Google United Health Care and AARP.....they are co-conspirators  ---UnitedHealthcare Insurance Company is the exclusive insurer of AARP Medicare Supplement insurance plans.

.ARRP is a powerful group that doesnt always take pro-consumer stances on health care, and one of the richest groups too......United also pays a roylty fee to AARP for every policy sold ---4 billion so far--(its called a "royalty fee" in order not to jeopardize AARP's nonprofit (cough, cough) status 🙄)...So this about United doesnt surprise me at all!!! 


I know about AARP.  Most people think AARP looks out for retired people. 

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We just signed up yesterday for Medicare....the better Medigap plan, not the Advantage. We don't want to have to go through referrals or networks. It cost more, but that's the way it is. 

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@proudlyfromNJ


@proudlyfromNJ wrote:

I have an advantage plan. I've had no problem finding a doctor.


I do not have a problem finding a doctor. Some MAP have limited networks in some areas.

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@CelticCrafter wrote:

@Sooner wrote:

@On It wrote:

United Healthcare has some big merger in the works that is going to give them a great deal more power and control. I do not know the details, but I recall reading that the merger was thought to be problematic.

 

In the meantime I was forced by the Teacher Retirement System of Texas to go on a United Healthcare Medicare Advantage program. When I first retired I had traditional Medicare and Aetna as a supplement. Then we received a letter saying that we would be using a Humana Medicare Advantage program. Any retiree who withdrew to maintain their independent Medicare could not rejoin the TRS retirement insurance plan. Last year we were shifted to United Healthcare Advantage.

 

As part of being a teacher in Texas in my younger days, we were promised we would be provided healthcare by the state if our school district did not offer it. As retired teachers TRS was to continue offering insurance coverage. I am afraid to withdraw from the program in case Medicare is defunded. TRS is supposed to pick up our coverage. Whether they will or not is another matter. This is frightening.

 

I much preferred having Medicare with a supplemental policy.


@On It Same thing here in Oklahoma.  Boy did people in education get the raw deal.  Wow!  I have a friend in the same boat you are and she is so so angry.  


My brother-in-law, a retired teacher in NJ had his plan switched to an Advantage plan after retiring, my sister-in-law a retired in NY had hers switched to an Advantage plan this year.

 

It seems as a lot of retired teachers are being switched from EPO/PPO plans to Advantage plans.

 

 


@CelticCrafter

I'm a retired teacher from NJ. The state moved teachers enrolled in the TPAF to a Aetna MAP from a Medicare with a supplement. This is a very good PPO that covers my medical needs. It also saves state money.

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@Drythe wrote:

@NYwoman wrote:

In short, United Hea;thcare SUCKS!   Unfortunately, each area has a dominant Advantage program.  UHC is mine and I could go on for hours about it.   


@NYwoman 

 

I guess there is a difference in UHC as a supplement. and as an advantage program.

 

As a supplement it is great.


You are very correct.   When I had my THA (hip replacement) I had Medicare with UHC supplemental because that is what the hospital required.  They covered everything.   And, BTW, where you live in the state changes the UHC supplemental cost.   I moved from mid state to just north of NYC and the cost of the same UHC supplement almost TRIPLED!!!!   

I was recently denied a knee injection (HA hyaluronic acid) because I (and the doctor) requested a different company's injection.   Both COST THE EXACT SAME AMOUNT.

But, I bet, UHC gets a kick back from the one we don't want.   UHC is political.   

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I have United Health Care Medicare Advantage as a retired State of GA employee. It is a PPO plan and I do not have to have referrals for specialists. I can see any provider as long as they accept Medicare. Just last fall I fractured my elbow and  needed surgery.  I paid a copayment of $45 to the surgeon and $170 for the hospital. There were no other charges at all. 

I know all Medicare advantages plans are different but I have had my United Health Care Advantage plan since 2015 and I have no complaints at all. 

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I have United Medicare Advantage plan and have had no issues with finding a doctor....I think it depends on where you live. Each time I have looked at other Medicare plans with other insurance companies, the first thing they have to know is your zip code.

The whole "in network" thing is a real pain. When there is only one specialist in a specific are who is less than 100 miles away, it is ridiculous to charge you more to see the one who is in your own town. I have a friend on Aetna who is dealing with this right now.

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@On It wrote:

United Healthcare has some big merger in the works that is going to give them a great deal more power and control. I do not know the details, but I recall reading that the merger was thought to be problematic.

 

In the meantime I was forced by the Teacher Retirement System of Texas to go on a United Healthcare Medicare Advantage program. When I first retired I had traditional Medicare and Aetna as a supplement. Then we received a letter saying that we would be using a Humana Medicare Advantage program. Any retiree who withdrew to maintain their independent Medicare could not rejoin the TRS retirement insurance plan. Last year we were shifted to United Healthcare Advantage.

 

As part of being a teacher in Texas in my younger days, we were promised we would be provided healthcare by the state if our school district did not offer it. As retired teachers TRS was to continue offering insurance coverage. I am afraid to withdraw from the program in case Medicare is defunded. TRS is supposed to pick up our coverage. Whether they will or not is another matter. This is frightening.

 

I much preferred having Medicare with a supplemental policy.


If it's this one, they can forget it @On It .  Regulators put the breaks on this one....

 

 

Justice Department Sues to Block UnitedHealth Group’s Acquisition of Change Healthcare

 

Acquisition Would Allow Health Care Giant to Use Competitively Sensitive Claims Data of Hundreds of Millions of Americans to Reduce Competition and Innovation to the Detriment of Health Insurance Consumers

 

The Department of Justice, together with Attorneys General in Minnesota and New York, filed a civil lawsuit today to stop UnitedHealth Group Incorporated (United) from acquiring Change Healthcare Inc. (Change). The complaint, filed in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, alleges that the proposed $13 billion transaction would harm competition in commercial health insurance markets, as well as in the market for a vital technology used by health insurers to process health insurance claims and reduce health care costs.

 

“Quality health insurance should be accessible to all Americans,” said Attorney General Merrick B. Garland. “If America’s largest health insurer is permitted to acquire a major rival for critical health care claims technologies, it will undermine competition for health insurance and stifle innovation in the employer health insurance markets. The Justice Department is committed to challenging anticompetitive mergers, particularly those at the intersection of health care and data.”

 

“The proposed transaction threatens an inflection point in the health care industry by giving United control of a critical data highway through which about half of all Americans’ health insurance claims pass each year,” said Principal Deputy Assistant Attorney General Doha Mekki of the Justice Department’s Antitrust Division. “Unless the deal is blocked, United stands to see and potentially use its health insurance rivals’ competitively sensitive information for its own business purposes and control these competitors’ access to innovations in vital health care technology. The department’s lawsuit makes clear that we will not hesitate to challenge transactions that harm competition by placing so much control of data and innovation in the hands of a single firm.”

 

As alleged in the complaint, the proposed transaction would give United, a massive company that owns the largest health insurer in the United States, access to a vast amount of its rival health insurers’ competitively sensitive information. Post-acquisition, United would be able to use its rivals’ information to gain an unfair advantage and harm competition in health insurance markets. The proposed transaction also would eliminate United’s only major rival for first-pass claims editing technology — a critical product used to efficiently process health insurance claims and save health insurers billions of dollars each year — and give United a monopoly share in the market.

 

The proposed acquisition would eliminate an independent and innovative firm, Change, that today provides a variety of participants in the health care ecosystem, including United’s major health insurance competitors, with vital software and services. This includes electronic data interchange (EDI) clearinghouse services, which transmit claims and payment information between insurers and providers, and first-pass claims editing solutions, which review claims under the health insurer’s policies and relevant treatment protocols. Indeed, Change markets itself as a valuable partner for insurers, working closely with them to innovate and problem-solve. United’s acquisition of this neutral player would allow United to tilt the playing field in its favor, harming current competition and allowing United to control and distort the course of innovation in this industry for the foreseeable future.

 

UnitedHealth Group Incorporated is headquartered in Minnetonka, Minnesota. United is an integrated health care enterprise that includes, among other subsidiaries, UnitedHealthcare, the largest health insurer in the United States; Optum Health, a large network of health care providers located throughout the country; OptumRx, a large pharmacy benefit manager; and OptumInsight, a health care technology business. United’s revenues were $288 billion in 2021.

 

Change Healthcare Inc. is headquartered in Nashville, Tennessee. Change is a leading independent health care technology company providing health care analytics, software, services and data to health care providers, health insurers and other software and services firms in the health care industry. Change’s revenues were $3.4 billion in 2021.

 

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-sues-block-unitedhealth-group-s-acquisition-change...





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@gertrudecloset Thank you for locating the information. I am glad that got stopped.