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‎03-29-2017 03:30 PM
I think there is a great differenciation between these rules and rules that dictate unfair discrimination.
‎03-29-2017 03:40 PM
That may be true @chickenbutt but nonetheless there are many people who do believe rules are rules and they stop there, that if it's a rule, no one should break it. It's been stated over and over on this topic and most have not questioned it except for two of us.
Imagine if that were true. Question authority, and I am not speaking of questioning the airline.
‎03-29-2017 03:45 PM - edited ‎03-29-2017 06:40 PM
Edited: Keep in mind that, in general, as long as these teens weren't showing 'too much' wearing the leggings, I haven't any problems with them wearing leggings, if the rules permit. ........... First of all, these teenagers' parents/relatives who are employees should have instructed the teens to not wear leggings. ........... Rules are rules, especially when they are related to employees and are receiving free flight tickets. ...........Now I'm channeling Higgins (Magnum P.I.) : ........ When I worked in Dept. stores during Summer vacations/holidays in high school/college, we were instructed to wear an off white or white blouse, and dark skirt (black, navy, dark brown, etc.). And we were told that if we came to the back employee entrance door and we weren't wearing our required employee outfits, that we wouldn't be permitted to work that day. They wanted all of their employees to look like employees, and not blend in with the customers who were shopping. I'm guessing that it was easier for customers to recognize employees, just in case the customers needed help with finding clothes and other store items. Actually, it's probably a good idea to easily recognize employees. I'll have to pay more attention to how employees are dressing in various stores. Well, long, side-tracked reply, as usual. Right or wrong, Enjoy your afternoon/evening!
‎03-29-2017 03:51 PM - edited ‎03-29-2017 03:53 PM
Oh boy. So now some want to compare rules about a dress code to women's voting rights? That's ridiculous.
I have a dress code at work. I had a dress code all through grade school and high school. My parents knew the dress code when they enrolled me in school and every morning I had to wear my uniform to school.
In high school, as silly as I thought the dress code was, I abided by it because I knew beforehand what I needed to wear or face the penalty of breaking dress code. I broke the dress code periodically and I always had to serve a detention because of it. I didn't whine and cry. No one alerted the media. I sat through the hour of detention. If I dared complain to my mom about it her comments to me were too bad. I don't want to hear it. You know the rules and you broke them. Now take your lumps.
That was the end of that.
I have a dress code at work. Among other things that dress code includes no leggings. I don't make a federal case out of it. I don't get on social media and complain about it. I dress the way I'm supposed to dress. I knew taking the job I couldn't come in to work in certain items of clothing.
‎03-29-2017 03:56 PM
Noel7 wrote:That may be true @chickenbutt but nonetheless there are many people who do believe rules are rules and they stop there, that if it's a rule, no one should break it. It's been stated over and over on this topic and most have not questioned it except for two of us.
Imagine if that were true. Question authority, and I am not speaking of questioning the airline.
Hey Noel! I understand what you're saying. Some folks tend to be extreme thinkers and that is problematic. I see more and more of that lately.
I tend to see each specific scenario for what it is. With this particular set of rules, I've been familiar for decades. At this point in my life I don't have first hand experience with it. My husband does now, as his daughter works for an airline. Now that I think about it, I think it's United.
Anyway, it's just a perk type of thing that has rules. People aren't precluded from flying because of the rules. They are just precluded from using the freebies.
That's my POV, anyway, FWIW. ![]()
Granted, it was from a time when people did dress up more and it held a higher importance than it may now. But until they change the rules, I can understand how they are inclined to inforce them.
I'm not against speaking up (nor do I disparage anybody else's opinion on the subject) but, for me, this isn't the type of thing that I need to protest. ![]()
‎03-29-2017 05:02 PM
@chickenbutt wrote:
@Noel7 wrote:That may be true @chickenbutt but nonetheless there are many people who do believe rules are rules and they stop there, that if it's a rule, no one should break it. It's been stated over and over on this topic and most have not questioned it except for two of us.
Imagine if that were true. Question authority, and I am not speaking of questioning the airline.
Hey Noel! I understand what you're saying. Some folks tend to be extreme thinkers and that is problematic. I see more and more of that lately.
I tend to see each specific scenario for what it is. With this particular set of rules, I've been familiar for decades. At this point in my life I don't have first hand experience with it. My husband does now, as his daughter works for an airline. Now that I think about it, I think it's United.
Anyway, it's just a perk type of thing that has rules. People aren't precluded from flying because of the rules. They are just precluded from using the freebies.
That's my POV, anyway, FWIW.
Granted, it was from a time when people did dress up more and it held a higher importance than it may now. But until they change the rules, I can understand how they are inclined to inforce them.
I'm not against speaking up (nor do I disparage anybody else's opinion on the subject) but, for me, this isn't the type of thing that I need to protest.
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@chickenbutt I haven't been protesting the leggings issue, but I do find it scary that so many people adhere to the belief that rules are rules.
Which is not to say there should be no rules, but we shouldn't accept them all blindly, imo.
‎03-29-2017 05:13 PM
How does the general public know who is flying free? They are representing the airline? If they are not wearing a badge then I would say no they are not representing the airline. I assume no one advertises that they are a relative flying for free?
‎03-29-2017 05:34 PM - edited ‎03-29-2017 05:42 PM
@truffle, this is the point I was trying to make earlier today. No one knows these people are representing the airline (unless they wear a badge saying so)... so their manner of dress is in no way reflecting upon the airline,,. so one has to wonder what difference it makes to the airline if no one can tell? It seems to me there is little use for The Rules.
P.S. I don't care one way or the other about what took place. I'm only wondering about these useless rules.
P.P.S. ... and to @Noel7 ..'s point, sometimes rules need to be questioned and re-evaluated instead of merely blindly accepted.
‎03-29-2017 06:16 PM
'All in all', no matter what our opinions are, the relatives who are employees did not warn the teens ahead of time regarding the dress code. That, or the teens were warned and just didn't give a darn. It's either one reason or the other.
‎03-29-2017 06:37 PM
Noel,
Both women AND men have to dress up if flying standby (for free). They are all either employees or related to airline employtees.
It's a perk to get to fly at no charge as often as you'd like (and there are open seats). In return, airlines ask that employees and families follow some simple dress code rules.
As I posted earlier, my friend's teenage son always wears a dress shirt and tie when flying standby. It's respect for the employer.
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