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@Peaches McPhee wrote:

Well, I don't mean to belittle sexual assualts, by any means, but how many assaults versus how many trips?  There must have been millions of trips over 2 years.  Percentages would be more meaningful information.


@Peaches McPhee Uber did report on that statistic, but I don't remember exactly what the percentage was, but it was quite a small percentage.  Also, the number given by OP does not break out how many were driver on passenger vs passenger on driver.  It goes both ways.  So, there might be a good reason for that female Uber driver to carry a gun, although she really shouldn't be talking about it.  There's something to be said for the element of surprise.  Pepper spray might be a better and easier to grab choice.  

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Re: Uber Sexual Assaults

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I read that about half of the assaults are against drivers.  I have only used Uber twice, with my family; I would never take an Uber by myself.

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You have to do the math, that is factored over billions of Uber rides during that time period.  Also, they lumped in verbal assaults and suggestive language.  And they are reports, not convictions.  I'd feel a lot safer in an UBER or LYFT than I would in a regular taxi.  Which isn't to say that I feel unsafe in Taxis.  I take an UBER or LYFT whenever I have to go into the city so I don't have to deal with parking and traffic or finding the place.  I used them when before my knee surgery.  Everyone I know uses them when they go out for the evening and there will be drinking.  No need for designated drivers, no parking worries, no concerns with directions.  Same when we are on vacation.  We didn't bother renting a car the last two trips to FL.  UBER was just so quick and easy.  Of course, bad things happen but not just with ride shares.  It's young women who have been drinking all night and get into the car and aren't aware of their surroundings who are risk for sexual assaults.  There was a case locally where the young woman alleged she was taken somewhere and raped.  Well, she fell asleep in the car and it was her misfortune that her driven was looking for someone who would be an easy targe.  

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What could go wrong?  Clients may be traveling in the dark of night, possibly with alcohol, meds, or who knows what other substances on board, in an area with unfamiliar surroundings, and a driver who has had little, to no vetting.  Not a problem.  

 

Yes, there's such a thing as justifiable paranoia.  My doc recently mentioned that she worries about her older patients who take UBER for appointments, or treatments. She said, imagine this -- 'the ill intended will immediately identify them as vulnerable, AND, now they know where they live, too.'  

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@PeachesMcphee how many rapes would be acceptable on a commuter train or a Greyhound Bus?
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@chrystaltree wrote:

You have to do the math, that is factored over billions of Uber rides during that time period.  Also, they lumped in verbal assaults and suggestive language.  And they are reports, not convictions.  I'd feel a lot safer in an UBER or LYFT than I would in a regular taxi.  Which isn't to say that I feel unsafe in Taxis.  I take an UBER or LYFT whenever I have to go into the city so I don't have to deal with parking and traffic or finding the place.  I used them when before my knee surgery.  Everyone I know uses them when they go out for the evening and there will be drinking.  No need for designated drivers, no parking worries, no concerns with directions.  Same when we are on vacation.  We didn't bother renting a car the last two trips to FL.  UBER was just so quick and easy.  Of course, bad things happen but not just with ride shares.  It's young women who have been drinking all night and get into the car and aren't aware of their surroundings who are risk for sexual assaults.  There was a case locally where the young woman alleged she was taken somewhere and raped.  Well, she fell asleep in the car and it was her misfortune that her driven was looking for someone who would be an easy targe.  


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

so it's the woman's fault in your scenario if she gets raped?

 

 

I guess the man had no choice but to rape her.

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@chrystaltree wrote:

You have to do the math, that is factored over billions of Uber rides during that time period.  Also, they lumped in verbal assaults and suggestive language.  And they are reports, not convictions.  I'd feel a lot safer in an UBER or LYFT than I would in a regular taxi.  Which isn't to say that I feel unsafe in Taxis.  I take an UBER or LYFT whenever I have to go into the city so I don't have to deal with parking and traffic or finding the place.  I used them when before my knee surgery.  Everyone I know uses them when they go out for the evening and there will be drinking.  No need for designated drivers, no parking worries, no concerns with directions.  Same when we are on vacation.  We didn't bother renting a car the last two trips to FL.  UBER was just so quick and easy.  Of course, bad things happen but not just with ride shares.  It's young women who have been drinking all night and get into the car and aren't aware of their surroundings who are risk for sexual assaults.  There was a case locally where the young woman alleged she was taken somewhere and raped.  Well, she fell asleep in the car and it was her misfortune that her driven was looking for someone who would be an easy targe.  


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

so it's the woman's fault in your scenario if she gets raped?

 

 

I guess the man had no choice but to rape her.


 

@chrystaltree , don't blame the woman. She was doing what any responsible person who had been drinking would do. She didn't drink and drive. As to her saying she was taken somewhere and raped, so what? She fell asleep and was raped. Maybe she was afraid she wouldn't be believed. 

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I have no qualms using Lyft by myself if need be.


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Re: Uber Sexual Assaults

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@chrystaltree wrote:

You have to do the math, that is factored over billions of Uber rides during that time period.  Also, they lumped in verbal assaults and suggestive language.  And they are reports, not convictions.  I'd feel a lot safer in an UBER or LYFT than I would in a regular taxi.  Which isn't to say that I feel unsafe in Taxis.  I take an UBER or LYFT whenever I have to go into the city so I don't have to deal with parking and traffic or finding the place.  I used them when before my knee surgery.  Everyone I know uses them when they go out for the evening and there will be drinking.  No need for designated drivers, no parking worries, no concerns with directions.  Same when we are on vacation.  We didn't bother renting a car the last two trips to FL.  UBER was just so quick and easy.  Of course, bad things happen but not just with ride shares.  It's young women who have been drinking all night and get into the car and aren't aware of their surroundings who are risk for sexual assaults.  There was a case locally where the young woman alleged she was taken somewhere and raped.  Well, she fell asleep in the car and it was her misfortune that her driven was looking for someone who would be an easy targe.  


And how often was this guy looking for any easy target before someone reported him?

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Back in the day when you got in a car with someone you didn't know it was known as hitching a ride and was frowned upon.

 

Today it is glorified.  The problem is these people don't work with anyone, they aren't really known by management as were cab drivers, it is a hobby or a fill-in job not a career so to speak.

 

And yes, perfect way to case places and people and then they or associates move in for a robbery.

 

It's not the 1950's any more.