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06-28-2017 06:28 PM
@151949 wrote:
@itiswhatitis wrote:
@151949 wrote:So how does the person who gets a degree as a museum curator or in art history, communication or philosophy make a living in the real world?
These are all degrees that some of my friend's kids have degrees in. In actual fact - the museum curator works at Walmart, art history is a SAHM - communication, actually has a masters degree - works in a grocery store at the deli counter and he is 35 years old. This is the only job he's ever had. Philosophy doesn't work at all and lives off his widowed Mother.
You can go on & on & on about your critical thinking etc. but I live in the real world.
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EVERY ONE OF THESE REQUIRES A MASTERS DEGREE OR MORE.
This is NOT the post I'm referring to. You're a nurse, right? Means you should be able to read this thread and find the post I'm referring to. Finally, not all these career paths require a MASTER'S DEGREE. You have to start somewhere, and that would be with a Bachelor's degree @151949.
06-28-2017 06:33 PM
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06-28-2017 06:38 PM
06-28-2017 06:40 PM
"NASTY and not necessary and mean."
I didn't think it was any of the above. It was a joke about a typo or autocorrect-- we've all been victims of both.
06-28-2017 06:41 PM
YOU CAN'T EVEN GET AN OFFICE JOB in some areas w/o a Bachelor's Degree.
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06-28-2017 06:49 PM
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Who would have thought that you'd need EXPERIENCE to even get a job in the trades? SMH
06-28-2017 06:58 PM - edited 06-28-2017 07:03 PM
You know, there's something no-one has addressed. Something I thought was understood. Yes, tuition has gone up. So have wages. The question isn't how much does an education cost today compared to previous generations. How much does it cost relative to wages and cost of living?
If tuition was $Xk/yr in the 70s; what were entry-level, mid-level, professional salaries?
If tuition was $Xk in the 90s--?
What is the 1970s dollar worth today?
You can't discuss this in absolutes. It has to be relatives.
When I got out of undergraduate school, we all had to scramble for work. We all took entry-level jobs. Depending on the job, they paid little to nothing (interns). MANY of us have had to adapt to the vicissitudes of life and change jobs or careers more than once. Adapt or die.
https://trends.collegeboard.org/college-pricing/figures-tables/tuition-fees-room-and-board-over-time
06-28-2017 08:02 PM
@LinaL wrote:You know, there's something no-one has addressed. Something I thought was understood. Yes, tuition has gone up. So have wages. The question isn't how much does an education cost today compared to previous generations. How much does it cost relative to wages and cost of living?
If tuition was $Xk/yr in the 70s; what were entry-level, mid-level, professional salaries?
If tuition was $Xk in the 90s--?
What is the 1970s dollar worth today?
You can't discuss this in absolutes. It has to be relatives.
When I got out of undergraduate school, we all had to scramble for work. We all took entry-level jobs. Depending on the job, they paid little to nothing (interns). MANY of us have had to adapt to the vicissitudes of life and change jobs or careers more than once. Adapt or die.
https://trends.collegeboard.org/college-pricing/figures-tables/tuition-fees-room-and-board-over-time
@LinaL scrambling for work is a whole diffent ball of wax depending on your age range so I would ask approximately how old you are as scrambling for a job was much easier when I was younger but has been brutal now that I am older (for reference I am 60).
06-28-2017 09:22 PM - edited 06-28-2017 10:05 PM
"@LinaL scrambling for work is a whole diffent ball of wax depending on your age range so I would ask approximately how old you are as scrambling for a job was much easier when I was younger but has been brutal now that I am older (for reference I am 60)."
Ok. I know we all gloss over things when we want to respond to posts, but, you have to read what I said.
"...When I got out of undergraduate school, we all had to scramble for work..."
I was 21 at the time I had to scramble for that first job.
I don't understand your point as it relates to this thread and my last post.
My point is that most of us (with all kinds of degrees in all disciplines) took lousy, low-paying jobs in the beginning. Those of us with a modicum of ambition worked our way into better-paying and more satisfying jobs or careers. Those less motivated stayed at entry-level jobs.
There's a way up and out of summer-break type jobs if the person wants it.
I don't understand the entitlement mentality of thinking that your first job has to be anything other than a low-paying entry-level job with commensurate pay. Nor do I understand why a 21-year-old should have the pressure (from parents) of knowing what they want to do the rest of their life, either. There's time to explore. You build skills, work, save money and find where you belong. These things can be done.
Of course there are those who know, from the time they can talk, what they want. They're the lucky ones.
06-28-2017 09:34 PM
@151949, you had a scholarship? You said your grandfather won something from his employer and he paid for your education. The employer didn't want to pay but your grandfather forced him to pay the tuition
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