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‎10-22-2014 03:02 PM
I believe I may have posted about this on another thread some time ago but I'll repeat.
DH and I were in a restaurant where a small family had already been served. While we were reading the menu and ordering, one of the children, about 5 y/o, was making a fair amount of noise and couldn't sit still.
They left after about 15-20 minutes of our being seated but when we thought about it, we realized that child never enunciated a word during all of that noise. We felt the child must have had a developmental issue. Maybe the mother had her reason for stopping to eat-in rather than take-out but it wasn't our place to question or to know. Bless that mom for the tough job she has.
Some child-noise isn't easily controllable.
‎10-22-2014 03:04 PM
On 10/22/2014 Jig Saw said:On 10/22/2014 scotttie said:
Don't laugh I had a leash for my children when they were toddlers. Much easier to keep up with them than holding their hand.
I have seen those harness things and think they are a good idea to keep kids safe in crowds and in traffic etc. I never got one but considered it. My middle child was quite a handful but then she had so many health issues that was why.
‎10-22-2014 03:08 PM
I think we are also talking about two different types of behavior here. There is the child who is screaming, crying, etc. etc. and is annoying. This is quite different from the child who is permitted to run around unsupervised and can cause injury to himself and others.
It really is a safety issue.
Just Saturday, there was a little girl hiding from her mother evidently and I didn't see her and tripped over her. She could have been injured. I stepped on her pretty good.
‎10-22-2014 03:08 PM
On 10/22/2014 Ford1224 said:I had the best behaved children when they were little. When we were invited to someone's house, they would go right over and sit on the sofa, one after another, all four, like ducks in a row.
When we went out to eat, they would sit down at the table or in the booth, and not move around; they would ask me if they needed to use the restroom and I would accompany them.
And I am talking about 3 to 7 year-olds here. I don't remember us ever having to "teach" them these manners, they just behaved that way in public.
They had their rowdy times of course, when playing outside or in the playroom. But never in a public place or at someone's home.
[Yeah, I know, another Ford brag.]
Ford...I applaud you for haivng such well behaved children...and while you don't remember having to teach them manner...you obviously did and most likely practiced good manners with them all the time simply as a way of life....we are not born with manners :-)
‎10-22-2014 03:08 PM
‎10-22-2014 03:09 PM
On 10/22/2014 Sushismom said:On 10/22/2014 colliegirls said:On 10/22/2014 Sushismom said:So no one who's loved their kids have ever had them misbehave? I find that impossible to believe. Kids are kids and some will act out on occasion regardless of how much they're loved. It happens.
The difference is the parent who ignores it and allows it to continue and the parent ( I was one) that takes the child out of the store and straight home so they learn that they may not behave like that.
"Their manners reflect your love for them."
The sign makes NO mention of whether or not a parent ignores the bad behavior or takes the child out of the store. That's why I do not like the last part of the sign. The first part is fine.
Discipline is part of being a good and loving parent. We are the ones who teach our children how to act, that is probably what that sign means.
‎10-22-2014 03:10 PM
Scottie, glad you were not hurt and hope the child learned something from it, too. Do you know if mom knew it happened?
‎10-22-2014 03:14 PM
I have a feeling I'll regret this, but that's just the mood I'm in today with peoples' intolerance.
My son's friend had a profoundly disabled child, both physically and mentally. She also had two older children and another child who was a year younger, beautiful, bright and intelligent. Her brother required quite a bit of time and attention, which was hard for her to understand at times.
She would act up sometimes, both at home and (oh, the horror) in public. Should my son's friend have never gone out? As a single mom, she had limited resources, both financially and in terms of relief.
Walk a mile in someone else's shoes before judging. That's all.
And, btw, her disabled child died shortly after his twelfth birthday. We still miss him. And the brat? She's an honor student and one of the best kids I've ever known.
‎10-22-2014 03:18 PM
Okay I changed my mind. I prefer this one.
‎10-22-2014 03:19 PM
On 10/22/2014 colliegirls said:On 10/22/2014 Sushismom said:"Their manners reflect your love for them."
The sign makes NO mention of whether or not a parent ignores the bad behavior or takes the child out of the store. That's why I do not like the last part of the sign. The first part is fine.
Discipline is part of being a good and loving parent. We are the ones who teach our children how to act, that is probably what that sign means.
Yes, I'm well aware that discipline is part of being a good parent and that parents are the ones who teach children how to act.
But the point is that even good children act out sometimes and that does NOT mean their parents don't love them. So blindly saying their manners reflect a parent's love is not true at all.
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