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[Noel7]

I've never understood why some women distance themselves from other women.  "If women..."  "They..."

Especially when they assume women aren't doing the right thing.

I like the strong movement of women supporting and mentoring each other and younger females.  Men have always done that.

[CrazyDaisy]

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@Noel7 wrote:

I've never understood why some women distance themselves from other women.  "If women..."  "They..."

Especially when they assume women aren't doing the right thing.

I like the strong movement of women supporting and mentoring each other and younger females.  Men have always done that.

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Why would you say distancing themselves rather than empowering them.  If you want a promotion you go after it, if you want a raise you go after it, if you want harassment to stop you stop it. 

[Noel7]

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@CrazyDaisy wrote:

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@Noel7 wrote:

I've never understood why some women distance themselves from other women.  "If women..."  "They..."

Especially when they assume women aren't doing the right thing.

I like the strong movement of women supporting and mentoring each other and younger females.  Men have always done that.

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Why would you say distancing themselves rather than empowering them.  If you want a promotion you go after it, if you want a raise you go after it, if you want harassment to stop you stop it. 

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Sorry you missed my entire point.  I wonder why you call women "they" instead of us or just women.  And why you lecture women, telling women what to do in a condescending way, as if you weren't part of the group.

[Laura14]

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@Noel7 wrote:

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@CrazyDaisy wrote:

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@Noel7 wrote:

I've never understood why some women distance themselves from other women.  "If women..."  "They..."

Especially when they assume women aren't doing the right thing.

I like the strong movement of women supporting and mentoring each other and younger females.  Men have always done that.

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Why would you say distancing themselves rather than empowering them.  If you want a promotion you go after it, if you want a raise you go after it, if you want harassment to stop you stop it. 

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Sorry you missed my entire point.  I wonder why you call women "they" instead of us or just women.  And why you lecture women, telling women what to do in a condescending way, as if you weren't part of the group.

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With all due respect, we are not a group.  We are individuals with our own thoughts and minds not sheep for one heroic WOMAN to lead us all to this alleged equality for all promise land. 

Trying to control anyone and co-opt them into some "group" is what's wrong with a lot of what goes on today.  People are entitled to not agree and pursue their own lives even those who share a gender.    

[Noel7]

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@Laura14 wrote:

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@Noel7 wrote:

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@CrazyDaisy wrote:

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@Noel7 wrote:

I've never understood why some women distance themselves from other women.  "If women..."  "They..."

Especially when they assume women aren't doing the right thing.

I like the strong movement of women supporting and mentoring each other and younger females.  Men have always done that.

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Why would you say distancing themselves rather than empowering them.  If you want a promotion you go after it, if you want a raise you go after it, if you want harassment to stop you stop it. 

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Sorry you missed my entire point.  I wonder why you call women "they" instead of us or just women.  And why you lecture women, telling women what to do in a condescending way, as if you weren't part of the group.

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With all due respect, we are not a group.  We are individuals with our own thoughts and minds not sheep for one WOMAN to lead us all to this alleged equality for all promise land. 

Trying to control anyone and co-opt them into some "group" is what's wrong with a lot of what goes on today.  People are entitled to not agree and pursue their own lives even those who share a gender.    

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Thanks, that was my point when one woman WAS telling us what to do.

[Laura14]

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@Noel7 wrote:

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@Laura14 wrote:

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@Noel7 wrote:

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@CrazyDaisy wrote:

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@Noel7 wrote:

I've never understood why some women distance themselves from other women.  "If women..."  "They..."

Especially when they assume women aren't doing the right thing.

I like the strong movement of women supporting and mentoring each other and younger females.  Men have always done that.

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Why would you say distancing themselves rather than empowering them.  If you want a promotion you go after it, if you want a raise you go after it, if you want harassment to stop you stop it. 

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Sorry you missed my entire point.  I wonder why you call women "they" instead of us or just women.  And why you lecture women, telling women what to do in a condescending way, as if you weren't part of the group.

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With all due respect, we are not a group.  We are individuals with our own thoughts and minds not sheep for one WOMAN to lead us all to this alleged equality for all promise land. 

Trying to control anyone and co-opt them into some "group" is what's wrong with a lot of what goes on today.  People are entitled to not agree and pursue their own lives even those who share a gender.    

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Thanks, that was my point when one woman WAS telling us what to do.

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In my opinion, she's telling everyone to take responsibility for themselves and their own lives.  If you don't like something, say something.  At the time.  

[Noel7]

My other point:

Has anyone here heard the phrase. "The old boys club"?  It's been real for a long time, meaning men are used to mentoring each other.  Many times they form clubs for men only where they talk business and help each other out.  Sometimes it happens during golf.

Women are starting to do that, also.  Not long ago, women in the sciences were not common.  THEN!  small groups of women began to mentor young women still in middle school or high school and many of them went into science from there.  Many have heard of STEM for girls, Science Technology Engineering and Math.  My daughter was a part of one of the first STEM classes for girls led by women in the field.

WONDERFUL!  We surely can help each other.

[Noel7]

This is often where deals are made, where men meet other men and bring them into a company.  Much of the time, they are not out there scrabbling on their own.  It's a functional system, it works.

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An old boy network, or society (also old boys' club), can refer to social and business connections among former pupils of male-only private schools. The term originated from much of the British elite having attended certain public schools as boys, thus former pupils are "old boys".

Old boy network - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_boy_network

[Noel7]

Forbes is teaching women how to run Old Girls Clubs, setting up networks and bringing career women together.

This is a big deal, this is 2017, times have changed, there are new ways to succeed and succeed faster.

[suzyQ3]

Gee, it would be very nice if women who were harassed took it upon themselves to speak up loudly at that moment.

Some do. But many, many do not. And I don't think that we have any right to shame them or imply they are to blame. There are myriad reasons that some do not. And unless you know the woman and unless you, too, have been in the same situations, you don't know what you would do.