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09-10-2018 11:11 AM
Valerie uses the word "harvest" to describe her decor because it sounds more upscale.
09-10-2018 11:26 AM
I've heard it used, but I don't use it myself. I grew up in the suburbs of San Francisco, where we were far removed from California produce growers and a harvest season and barely had a fall season at all. Now I live in central Texas and it's the same thing - no fall season and no harvesters.
Calling it harvest feels somehow fraudulent to me, the suburbanite/city dweller who gets all her food at the grocery store without any real thought or effort.
09-10-2018 11:53 AM
@Sooner-----
There is lore here in Santa Barbara-----, The John Deere family had a vacation home here.
They wired ahead to staff that they were due to come for their visit. Mrs. Deere was older at the time and stated she was looking forward to her visit and seeing her orange trees filled with oranges.
Well, unfortunately the gardeners had just "harvested" the crop and left none on the trees. The story is that they tied oranges to the trees so Mrs. Deere would't be dissapointed. Apparantly it worked , and all were happy.
I had heard this story many times, and had considered buying the house next door. I asked the realtor if it was true or fantasy he said he had heard the story since he was a child-----Who knows.
09-10-2018 12:44 PM
@hennypenny wrote:@Sooner-----
There is lore here in Santa Barbara-----, The John Deere family had a vacation home here.
They wired ahead to staff that they were due to come for their visit. Mrs. Deere was older at the time and stated she was looking forward to her visit and seeing her orange trees filled with oranges.
Well, unfortunately the gardeners had just "harvested" the crop and left none on the trees. The story is that they tied oranges to the trees so Mrs. Deere would't be dissapointed. Apparantly it worked , and all were happy.
I had heard this story many times, and had considered buying the house next door. I asked the realtor if it was true or fantasy he said he had heard the story since he was a child-----Who knows.
I hope it is true and a sweet thing (pun intended) to do for a little old lady looking forward to oranges just off the tree! Thanks for telling us the story!
09-10-2018 03:15 PM
While I was at Dollar Tree the other day, I bought a package of Limited Edition Werther's Original --
- Harvest Caramels -
Pumpkin Spice
Soft Caramels
09-10-2018 03:38 PM
@Deree wrote:
@ Montana wrote:There seems to be some confusion about capitalizing “fall” and other seasons. Probably because sometimes seasons are capitalized and sometimes they are not.
I did not know about the specific rules for capitalizing seasons. Now I do.
The seasons are common nouns rather than proper nouns so shouldn't be capitalized. Sometimes in poetry the seasons are capitalized when they are personified. I remember this from grade school. However I don't think there's any need for flabbergastery (I think I made up this word but so what?) if people happen to capitalize the seasons.
My iPad seems to prefer capitalization for all 4 seasons. Even when I want to refer to “bed springs” or “winterizing the pool.”
Maybe it's programmed poetically! 😉 Old Man Winter is definitely personified in these parts.
Sorry for any flabbergastery (great word!) I may have caused.
I saw Harvest and Halloween (both capitalized) decor advertised at a local craft store this morning on my way to work. I guess it's not just Valerie!
It's all good, though. One of the nicest seasons for decorating and celebrating. 🍁
09-10-2018 03:51 PM - edited 09-10-2018 05:39 PM
This thread piqued my wondering (wandering🙃) mind... I found this interesting article:
"Why Do We Call the Seasons Spring, Summer, Fall and Winter?"
" ...Before Spring was called Spring, it was called Lent in Old English. Starting in the 14th century, that time of year was called “springing time”—a reference to plants “springing” from the ground.
In the 15th century this got shortened to “spring-time,” and then further shortened in the 16th century to just “spring.”
“Summer” came from the Old English name for that time of year, sumor. This, in turn, came from the Proto-Germanic sumur-, which itself came from the Proto-Indo-European root sam- (sam- seems to be a variant of the Proto-Indo-European sem-, meaning “together / one").
The origin of “fall” as a name for a season isn't perfectly clear, though it’s thought that it probably came from the idea of leaves falling from trees (particularly the contraction of the English saying “fall of the leaf").
It first popped up as a name for a season in late-16th century England and became particularly popular during the 17th century, at which point it made its way over to North America.
“Autumn,” meanwhile, came to English via the Old French autompne, from the Latin autumnus.
From here, things get murky, but it’s thought autumnus probably came from an Etruscan word and is possibly related to the Latin augere, meaning “to increase.”
Calling the season autumn first occurred in English in the 12th century, though was a rarity until around the 14th century.
It then began to pick up steam and became common in the 16th century—about the same time “fall” popped up as the name for the season.
Before the season was autumn or fall in English, though, it was called “harvest.”
“Winter,” meanwhile, derives from the Proto-Germanic wentruz. This, in turn, probably comes from the Proto-Indo-European (PIE) wed, meaning “wet,” or it may come from the PIE wind-, meaning “white.”
Either way, the Proto-Germanic wentruz gave rise to the Old English “winter” as the fourth season of the year, and the name for the season has stuck around ever since.
Incidentally, you may also wonder why the seasons are called seasons.
The word “season” in this context comes from the Old French seison, meaning “sowing / planting.” This in turn came from the Latin sationem, meaning “sowing.”
Initially, this referred to actually sowing seeds, but later, as with the Old French seison, it shifted definition to refer to the time period when you sow seeds, so literally “seed-time."
Season in this sense in English popped up around the 13th century.
It was also around this time that season was first used to refer to seasoning food—in this case from the Old French assaisoner, meaning “to ripen.”
Additional Source: Barnhart Concise Dictionary of Etymology"
see complete article at:
mentalfloss.com/article/52813/how-did-seasons-get-their-names
09-10-2018 05:04 PM
@Daisy Sunflower wrote:
While I was at Dollar Tree the other day, I bought a package of Limited Edition Werther's Original --
- Harvest Caramels -
Pumpkin Spice
Soft Caramels
They must be trying to sound "upscale"....lol
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