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[Marp]

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@wagirl wrote:

WHAT!!??? that is wrong on so many levels, I can't believe it!!! sounds like the the wrong people are running things-----

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The people "running things" are those the people directly or via proxy have chosen.

[Marp]

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@QVCkitty1 wrote:

I know many teachers and they tell me that a big problem is the parents. Often the parents don't back up the teacher or school when it comes to discipline. 

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@QVCkitty1,  I can relate to that thinking.  I know when I was going to school, even as far back as kindergarten, if a teacher called mom and said your daughter/son was disruptive or did ______ mom's response would be we were guilty until proven innocent.   Of course we were given the opportunity to defend ourselves but there would never have been a knee jerk "not my child" reaction.

[lgfan]

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@Marp wrote:

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@QVCkitty1 wrote:

I know many teachers and they tell me that a big problem is the parents. Often the parents don't back up the teacher or school when it comes to discipline. 

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@QVCkitty1,  I can relate to that thinking.  I know when I was going to school, even as far back as kindergarten, if a teacher called mom and said your daughter/son was disruptive or did ______ mom's response would be we were guilty until proven innocent.   Of course we were given the opportunity to defend ourselves but there would never have been a knee jerk "not my child" reaction.

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Or the other classic parent response "Someone must have provoked my child.  My child would not do that unless provoked".

[Desertdi]

What happened to standing in the corner wearing the dunce cap?

[Marp]

@Desertdi   they moved from the corner to the public domain?

[BoopOMatic]

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@Ronettes wrote:

One 'plan' could be to expel any troublemakers permanently, which would force the parents to enroll them in an expensive private school.

If I had young children today, I would never allow them to attend public schools, they would be exposed to so many dreadful behaviors.

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I agree, so much bullying, and other issues, not to mention the quality of their "education" is questionable at best.

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[Mombo1]

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@QVCkitty1 wrote:

I know many teachers and they tell me that a big problem is the parents. Often the parents don't back up the teacher or school when it comes to discipline. 

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@QVCkitty1    I'm a retired teacher.  When I first started, it was great.  I always loved working with the younger kids, and the staff was supported by administration and parents.   As the years went on...I could see the changes coming.  The increased workload and the "exceptions" or "excuses" for bad behaviors got worse every year.  At the end...the kids were running the show and I knew it was time for me to move on.  
     I'm thankful for the many years I had in the profession and still miss working with the little ones, but times have changed dramatically.  

[deepwaterdotter]

I am not aware of these sort of problems in the local public schools.  Could it be because of the school resource officers' presence?

[LTT1]

@FatCatinCT 

I taught during the time of the famous "no child left behind".

It's just great to hear that your son opted out of teaching and opted in for consulting.

There are a few jobs in schools that I believe I might really like. But unfortunately teaching has not remained one of them.

[Cakers3]

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@Marp wrote:

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@wagirl wrote:

WHAT!!??? that is wrong on so many levels, I can't believe it!!! sounds like the the wrong people are running things-----

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The people "running things" are those the people directly or via proxy have chosen.

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Not all people  "running things" present themselves as lenient or non- believers in punishment while running for positions.

These situations are not always happening at the time so not all will be asked about them nor have they thought about solutions.

The best intentions for the students are often put on the back burner because all it takes is one person to be offended and the majority caves.

Not all in charge are comfortable with these fights, deaths, etc.

Yet hands get tied until it is too late.

Especially for Jonathan Lewis Jr., hit and kicked to death for coming to the aid of a student being attacked by the same bullies.

I believe parents are first in line to raise good people. I also believe small group sessions can and have had positive outcomes. Peer interaction has been shown to be more effective than having them attend lectures without giving their own input. Competent therapists, counselors, etc. can draw out

feelings and negative thought patterns up to reality. Kids are not stupid. They can find the answers for better ways.

Why non- students have such easy access to some schools is a question for a serious answer and solution.